Welcome And Meet Roger

SPEAKER_13 1:35

Uh Roger Sutherland, the founder of A Healthy Shift. He's a top man, certified nutritionist, veteran shift worker, shift work coach, night shift specialist. He is Roger Sutherland. Roger, good morning. Good morning to you. How are you this morning? I'm glad you asked. I'm glad you asked. Well, we haven't been two weeks.

SPEAKER_11 1:58

It feels longer. It's going to be a lot longer after tonight. Can I mention this time next week? I will be in the Mediterranean. For how long? Four weeks. Uh and just swanning around in your bathers? No. Well, it's a bit topical at the moment. I'm going to be on a cruise ship for 21 days. Oh, really? Really? Yes. Have you done a cruise before? Oh, yeah, I've done plenty of cruises. My son used to work on a cruise ship. He used to work on the Crystal Symphony, which is one of only two six-star cruise liners. Not five, six-star cruise liners. Which one owns that? Uh it's owned by the Oh geez. It used to be owned by the Japanese. Oh, it's a lot of the Japanese. But it's a Crystal. It's it's American, it's an American cruise liner. Um there's two. There's the Crystal Symphony, there's the Crystal Uh Top of the Wazer? I can't remember the other one now, the name of the other one, but there's two of them. They've actually got a Nobu on board. Oh wow. And um But you'd have to pay over it above, wouldn't you, for that? Oh no. It's all included. It's all inclusive, yeah. For your first go, it's all inclusive. And then after that, wait for it,$20 US for every session after that. Now I took a friend in and he goes, Look, I'm not really into raw fish, but I'll I'll give it a go. Raw fish.

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And after the first call it raw fish. That's what he said.

SPEAKER_11 3:20

It's his exact words. And he said to me, Look, I'll come along because we were going with my son, because my son was in the ensemble on board, which um was a performer, he's a singer and dancer. And um, we were going out for dinner with him, and he was taking us into the Nobu, and I said to my mate Stu, let's go. And he goes, Oh, I'm not really into raw fish, but I'll come. And let me tell you, after the first 64 pieces, he was on board.

SPEAKER_13 3:45

It's a bit like when we uh there's a great comedian whose name uh not Seth, but he'll come back to me in just a tick, uh Jay, who talks about the idea of why we call uh why do we call it pork? I don't know. Exactly.

SPEAKER_11 4:04

Why do we call it beef?

SPEAKER_13 4:05

Uh why do we call it beef? And why do we call chicken chicken? It's food. We like to talk about food. But what but why didn't we change the name of chicken? Why would we? It's got a name. When we change the name of pig to pork, we change the name of cow to beef, why didn't we change the name chicken? To chalk. Just thought. Well But it'd interest that we didn't do that. No. And then some and then part of his tag when you're telling this great story, he then says, uh, he's asked the question, well, what's in a hot dog? He says, Oh God, you probably wouldn't want to know what's in a hot dog.

SPEAKER_11 4:45

No one knows. And and no one wants to know.

SPEAKER_13 4:47

No one knows what's in hot dogs.

Pick A Song For Shift Work

SPEAKER_11 4:48

I don't think we want to know, but it's a lot of salt and it's not good for us. I know that. Now listen, I want people to get fired up. I want them to start thinking, coming out of the five o'clock news, we need a song that describes you as a shift worker. Me or anybody. Everybody, I want you to start thinking about a song for yourself that would describe you as a shift worker. I've got mine, Jay. You're on notice. He needs one as well. So coming out of five o'clock, we're gonna have a bit of fun with this. So start thinking. Have you got one, Jay? I certainly do. I've been prepping this one for a little while. Yeah, beautifully done. It's a very formal approach. Quite a number of them, actually. Very formal. I know it's hard to choose, isn't it? Once you start going through it, it's very hard to choose. See, you could say mine is the night shift by the Commodores, but I'm not going with that one. I'm going with another one. Oh, you've got another one. Oh, yeah, I've got another one.

SPEAKER_13 5:42

And you're not going to share share anything.

SPEAKER_11 5:44

Not yet, no, coming out of the five o'clock news. Okay. We're going to get yours, mine, and Joe's song, and then we're going to run into that.

SPEAKER_13 5:49

And so we're asking for the listener to participate?

SPEAKER_11 5:52

Yeah, of course. We want the listeners to call us in on 133693, but after 5 o'clock, with their song that best describes them on night shift. Now, there's some really good songs out there.

SPEAKER_13 6:02

Or shift sort of workers generally, really. Shift workers. It doesn't have to be night shift. I mean because there'd be people that do a day shift and then go to night shift.

What Counts As A Shift Worker

SPEAKER_11 6:09

Rotating shift work. So it's a shift shift. Technically, that is a shift worker. Yeah. Or what is the definition of a shift worker? Anyone that works outside of nine to five. Two hours outside of the general uh 9 a.m. 98 to 5 p.m. Yeah, I would have thought. Um and night shift is deemed as two hours after midnight, at some stage after midnight, within two hours.

SPEAKER_13 6:35

So by that definition then, as you say that, Raj, I would make the observation, and you historically as well, you've never done anything but uh as a shift worker.

Night Shift Summit And Why It Matters

SPEAKER_11 6:46

I've only uh since I was twenty. Yeah, so for 40 years I did shift work, and then I came in here, so I ended up doing the shift work here as well, because I was coming in and doing the midnight. You were, and then I came in. So I haven't really stopped shift work at all, but we need to learn how to go about it. This is the key. It's the education of how to go about shift work. This is what I see is the biggest problem today, the lack of education. And if I may want to talk about, I've been I'm absolutely thrilled because I've been invited to speak at an international summit called the Night Shift Summit. And it's been run in conjunction with Third Shift Work a Day, which the third shift is known as the night shift, or it's a it's a uh terminology that we describe night shift. Not so much here, but more in the USA. It's an American thing. We're gonna talk, we're gonna call that the third shift. The third shift, yeah. Yeah, um, yeah, the third watch. And we all know the show the third watch, which is the night shift. So there we are. Now the event is a free event, and it's an online webinar, and we are talking everything night shift.

SPEAKER_13 7:57

So you're not being flown to Florida.

SPEAKER_11 8:00

Oh, geez, I would love to go. Now, this is an inaugural event, Tony. So what we're doing is we're starting this one as the lead-in, hopefully, to International Shift Worker Day in November. Now, it's a live webinar. Each speaker is only going to be speaking for about 15 minutes on their particular topic. Now, you reckon you can keep it down to 15? No. No. Um, we've got a few of us that are going to struggle, but we are on an absolute time limit of 15 minutes, and then we're going to have like a fireside chat where people can ask us anything they want around the night shift. I want people to if people can't watch it, it's at 10 o'clock on this Thursday morning. Oh, okay. Right, the 14th of May. Thursday, this coming Thursday. This Thursday morning. Where do you find it? And you can find it at nightsummit.com. Nightshiftsummit.com. We have five incredible speakers that are speaking. We're talking about with our friend of the show, Dr. Olivia Walsh. She's going to be talking about sleep. We've spoken to Olivia on this programme. We certainly have. Sleep, and she's a circadian rhythm expert, and in her beautiful way she describes things, she's going to tell everyone what the circadian rhythm is and why it's so important.

SPEAKER_13 9:10

But more importantly, I've just found it. I've just thought of another song when you said that. Circadian rhythms. No, well close. Uh write it down, Jay. I'll remind me. Don't let me write it down.

SPEAKER_11 9:22

You've got your pen in your hand, write it down while I talk. All right. So Olivia's speaking about sleep and circadian rhythms. I'm going to be talking about my favourite topic, which is how to get into, go through, and come out of the night shift with more energy to enjoy your days off so that you don't feel like you've actually done night shift. Dr. Charlotte Gupta, who I'd love to get on the show as well, is going to talk about nutrition and what to eat and when over night shift. We have Dr. Yoloro, who's going to be talking about mental health and the impact that circadian disruption has on our mental health. And Sean, who is the host or has started this, is going to be talking about employer infrastructure and societal change, which is attacking, not attacking, but actually educating leaders, thought leaders, culture and people leaders, human resource managers, and things like that to educate in relation to um systems and what needs to actually change around that. Because it's okay to educate the shift worker, but we need strong and robust systems in place as well to help with all of that. So again, night shift summit.com, all one word, not shift summit. So you've got to you've got to log into it. Yeah, or you just register, that's all it is. It's free to register. Or you've got to name an email. I know people are saying this. Um I was on Reddit, and Reddit's a bit of a dumpster fire on social media, and we put it, I said, okay, so what are you selling? We're actually not selling, we're selling ourselves as to who we are in the knowledge because of the education. So um uh and if you can't make it at 10am, which a lot of people won't be able to, especially the night shift workers. Catch up. There's a recording available to registered users as well that you can watch anytime. Fast forward to the person that you want to listen to talking about their topic.

SPEAKER_13 11:08

It's a that's it.

SPEAKER_11 11:10

Oh, that's it.

SPEAKER_13 11:11

Okay, great. Thank you for that. We'll mention that again very, very shortly. Uh Roger Sutherland's here. I'm Tony McManus. Uh look at all these uh um nominations for songs. We will be inundated.

SPEAKER_11 11:21

Oh, I hope so.

SPEAKER_13 11:22

Inunded in the next half hour. Yep. Uh come and join us. Anything you would like to raise on the program, a healthy shift. It is the one and only Roger Sutherland, 133693. Uh the text line, 0477-693-693. For those uh thinking about the song, we're going to do that after five o'clock. After five o'clock is uh when we're doing the uh song, if you will. Uh Roger Sutherland is here from A Healthy Shift. Uh he does all kinds of incredible things. Just repeating, so that uh summit is called nightshiftsummit.com. Uh have a look at that. Uh log in and it goes it goes live next Thursday morning at 10 o'clock.

Why Overnight Eating Hits Hard

SPEAKER_11 12:03

10 o'clock in the morning. Yeah, really excited about it. It's such a thrill for me after doing what I've done to actually get to speak on this um international platform globally. Globally. Globally. Anyway.

SPEAKER_13 12:15

Uh when do we can look when do we eat what do we weat? Uh and uh particularly at 2, 3 o'clock in the morning. I know we touched on this a couple of years ago. It's so important because the tendency can be, uh and I know uh speaking to people like Simon, uh Jay Woody was pretty good at it, he would eat pretty well, but the tendency can be to eat CRAP at two, three o'clock in the morning during the cereal.

Simple Night Shift Food Choices

SPEAKER_11 12:38

I think one of the biggest problems that people have is they don't understand the impact that eating overnight actually has. And this is where we it comes out. I don't want to make this sciencey, I'm gonna make it very simple. Please. We don't metabolise, digest, or store nutrients as efficiently overnight as we do during the day. So one of the biggest problems that we have is as a general rule, while we eat overnight, and we do need to keep sustenance going. There's a lot of people, like we look at we're going into West Australia here and we've got the FIFOs that are working really hard. You can't not eat overnight, but it's what you eat that makes such a difference. Now, our metabolism actually drops by around about two to three hundred calories overnight. So a lot of people don't realize shift research shows that shift workers don't eat more than what a general day walker, our nine to fiver, eats as a general rule. You probably would think, I don't eat more, I don't eat as more than what I would have done if I was on day shift. And research shows this. So why do shift workers put on weight? Yeah, why do they put on weight? Why do we gain weight? And the main reason is this academic disruption because what we've got to remember is, and this is the key, it's not the time on the wall, it's the time in the body clock that we have to pay attention to. The body clock is the master of all, right? So while we're awake during the day, our body clock is running. While we're awake at night, our body clock is running, but it's still running on that day rhythm. So it's releasing those hormones, it's releasing those digestive enzymes, it's it's doing what it's doing still on that daytime schedule, even though we are awake at night. And this is one of the main reasons why a lot of people who eat overnight, and I've seen it, and don't get me wrong, Tony, I've I've been I used to sit there and tuck into a bowl of pasta at three o'clock in the morning when I was working, and thinking that, well, we're on night shift, so we just flip our meals because our body isn't expected. Oh my goodness me, it's the worst thing that you can do. You you should not be eating. In fact, I I've actually uh written an ebook and I've released it, and it's on my website to help people with this. Which is a healthy. If they go to a healthyshift.com and scroll down to the bottom, you can see my circadian fast ebook. It's free for people to actually download to help them to not eat overnight. How do we structure this overnight fast? Or if you do have to eat, what should we be eating? Now, my recommendation for people that are eating overnight. No, those days are gone. Those days are well and truly gone. The donuts on night shift.

SPEAKER_05 15:25

Didn't allow it. Coffee and donuts in America they did.

SPEAKER_11 15:27

Well, it's it's a bit of a catch-cry, isn't it? Coffee and donuts. But um, soups, highly blitzed vegetable soups are absolutely ideal on night shift for people because it's got to be something that's slips through the system that's really easy to digest, because your system is asleep. And as a general rule, whatever you eat overnight, it's gonna float around in your bloodstream because and I'm not gonna go into insulin resistance, but we're very insulin resistant, and that food, literally, that glucose, just sits in our bloodstream and it ends up getting parked as body fat. And it's an extremely, it's extremely poor to eat overnight. And what do we crave overnight? What is it we actually look for? Love. Highly palatable carbs and fats. And love. And they're the worst.

SPEAKER_13 16:13

Eggs, scotch, fillet, ribeye, chicken, water to wash it down, no salt, no sugar. Yeah. Is that is that's a text just come in from Nigeria.

SPEAKER_11 16:24

Yeah, you'll see, eggs, eggs, yeah, a really good option. A boiled egg, uh, sorry, a hard-boiled egg on night shift is really, really good. Like really good. Because it provides you the protein, the fats, it's got really it's really good. Um, scotch fillet and ribeye. I don't know whether be a bit careful of the fats in that, but I the again, protein is good, chicken is good, water, plenty of water to keep washing it down, no salt, no sugar is excellent. That's a really, really good suggestion. Um, there. But we want things that are easy to break down.

Back From News Song Picks Begin

SPEAKER_13 16:56

And that's and so that would fit the criteria. Yeah. I'm just looking at some of the other texts that have come in, which we'll uh do that in just a moment. Thank you for all those nominations for songs. We'll get to them after the news coming up. Uh, it is Australia Overnight, Tony McManus. Roger is here. Now that the uh challenge for you is uh come up with a song that somehow reflects the idea of or the theme of which is something to do with shift working, working shift work over the years. Or how you feel. Yeah, 133693. Roger Sutherland is here. Roger, Roger, a healthy shift.com. Uh the challenge for you is, and uh we always say uh don't overthink it because it's not that difficult, really. Uh just think of the uh one track, one song if you like, yeah, that sort of reflects the idea of being a uh worker who works outside so-called normal hours. Yep. Which describes your mood. Yeah, yeah, good point. What describes the mood of that? 133693. It is Australia Overnight or Straight After News. Now, this is Australia Overnight with Tony McMahon. Welcome, five o'clock. It's Roger Sutherland is here, founder of a healthy shift as a uh nutritionist and a veteran shift worker for many a year. Uh and now a uh coach, shift work coach and night shift specialist. So the idea is uh people have to come up with a track or a song or a uh part of a song if you like. Okay, uh, that sort of highlights the idea of what it's like to be a uh shift worker, being a person who works outside the feels outside normal hours.

SPEAKER_11 18:40

Yeah, I absolutely love this. Um there's a good one here from Rhys, who's going to be doing his laps that says working class man, that's a gem. Joe Moen. But that's sort of motivational, isn't it? Well, it is because you need what all the help that you can get. There was a number I was gonna go with blinding lights by the weekend as well. What's yours, Tony?

SPEAKER_13 19:40

I'm gonna hold mine off.

SPEAKER_11 19:42

Oh, you're gonna hold it off, Joe? Yeah. Has Joe got one?

Callers Share Songs And Rosters

SPEAKER_13 19:46

No. He'll have one. Have you got one, Jay? No, he hasn't yet. Okay. Uh why don't we go to uh Laz? Laz in WA. Hello, Laz.

SPEAKER_08 19:57

Tony, hey guys, what do you what do you got, Laz? Well, I used to be a shift worker and I worked out from the mines up in the northwest of Western Australia. And um people don't understand about shift work, right? You know, I'd I'd be I'd be on a roster where you start work at midnight. And it'll be five degrees. And how much is 45 degrees?

SPEAKER_12 20:30

That's very jelly.

SPEAKER_08 20:36

And and and I've got a song hard fun by Eddie Vera because because you come out of that and and and and yeah, and and you know what, you don't have any appetite.

SPEAKER_11 20:51

No at all. Was that a twelve hour shift? How long was your shift last? Was it twelve hours? Twelve hours, yeah. So you'd start at five you'd start at midnight at five degrees and finish at midday at 45. Yeah, crazy. That's nuts.

SPEAKER_08 21:07

Yes, yes, that was it. You know, and and you'd come out and all all you could eat was just salad. You you couldn't eat anything else.

SPEAKER_11 21:14

But when it's hot, you don't feel like it, do you? Uh no.

SPEAKER_08 21:17

No, no, no. But but you but do you know what, Tony? What got me through was hot tea.

SPEAKER_13 21:23

Love. Love and hot tea. Love and hot tea will always get you through. Uh now uh let's go. Thank you, Lavs. Let's go back to uh Jay. Jay, uh you've you've given this a lot of thought in the last 24 hours. A lot of thought. So you're under a fair bit. A bit of pressure.

SPEAKER_11 21:37

Very high pressure.

SPEAKER_13 21:39

Do you know what he's going to play? No. You don't?

SPEAKER_11 21:42

No, because he changed. I did.

SPEAKER_13 21:44

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_11 21:45

He changed at the last minute, so this is a surprise, this one.

SPEAKER_13 21:47

Okay, here is here is your contribution to a song that sort of looks at the idea of being a person who works out of normal hours as part of uh shift work around Australia from Jay, executive producer.

SPEAKER_11 23:39

Now, Joe, I had an You gave me another one early on. I did. Under pressure. Under pressure was another one.

SPEAKER_13 23:47

I think there was somebody else who was going to say that. Have they? Well, you might have. One double three, six nine three. That is such a good song. Did that feature in the when the Brecky Boys were doing last week uh the World Cup of Beatles songs? I hope that was in the list, wasn't it? I think it was pretty close to the number one. If not, why not? Uh Wilma, good morning.

SPEAKER_07 24:09

Good morning, Tony. Now, I've got a song, and it's called Beautiful Light Light, and I'm saying that because the way you deal with Beatles, and Pat does, and Jay does. What was the song? Fantastic too. That's very, very comfortable. Beautiful Light Light by Marisha.

SPEAKER_13 24:35

By Mauritia. Yeah, Mauritia. Marisha, we'll see if we can find it. What's the name? Sorry, we just missed it again, Wilma.

SPEAKER_07 24:42

Uh Beautiful That Way.

SPEAKER_13 24:44

Beautiful that way by Marisha. Beautiful. We're writing it down. Beautiful. We'll see if we can find it. Beautiful that way by uh Maritia. Wilma, thank you. Uh let's go to Atoni. Morning.

SPEAKER_14 24:58

Good morning. How are you?

SPEAKER_13 24:59

We're sensational. Roger's here. I'm Tony Mack. What do you got for us?

SPEAKER_14 25:02

Roger. Uh Tony, my song is Industrial Disease, Men at Work. Uh, Dry Straight.

SPEAKER_11 25:08

Great song. Great song. Industrial Disease is a classic, isn't it? Yeah, I never thought of that. Oh, yeah. It's very good. Industrial disease. By the Straits.

SPEAKER_12 25:18

It is a chilling piece, isn't it?

SPEAKER_11 25:19

Yeah, it is. It is. And you rarely hear it played. No, you don't. No, it's such a good song. It's got some great riffs, don't they? The um The Straits. Fantastic games. Oh, the one of Army Mark Knopfler. Exactly right.

SPEAKER_13 25:32

I've been listening to some more of his uh more recent work, Tony, and I gotta tell you, he's one that gets better with age.

SPEAKER_14 25:38

Yeah. Oh, yeah, he's like red wine. Good red wine.

SPEAKER_13 25:41

Just fantastic. I heard him do uh just on guitar recently, just over the weekend, playing uh a great American track, but slowed down with his wonderful style of uh just sitting with his fingers in a guitar and he nails it effortlessly. Yep. Such an envious talent. Well done, Tones. What's on the list? Uh Danny, Danny, Danny, good morning.

SPEAKER_01 26:05

Good morning. Um my one is Copa Cabana Cabana. Do you know that I was a showgirl?

SPEAKER_11 26:12

Yeah. Uh Copa Cabana risk by Barry Manolo. So I'm no good at Manolo.

SPEAKER_13 26:18

Manilo.

SPEAKER_01 26:18

Barry Manalo. Barry Manalo.

SPEAKER_13 26:21

Cobba Gabana. Okay. Uh because what? Because it was a working girl. She was a working girl.

SPEAKER_01 26:29

Her name was Roller. She was a showgirl.

SPEAKER_13 26:31

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 26:44

She lost a love.

SPEAKER_13 26:46

She lost a love, and she used to shake her boom booms, which was good. Tommy, good morning to you. Where you been, Tommy? We've missed you.

SPEAKER_09 26:54

I lost my beautiful dog um a month ago.

SPEAKER_13 26:57

Oh, Tommy, I didn't know. I'm sorry to hear.

SPEAKER_09 27:01

Yeah. Oh, Tom. Was that sudden? A month ago? Yeah, it was actually. It was two weeks short of his eighth birthday. So um he got cancer on the spleen and a massive tumor on his stomach. Even after the last day I took him to have to get him down, he jumped up in the car or anything like that. So yeah, it was very sudden. But my one is I get knocked down because I get up again. Because you know what I did two weeks later, Tone? You know what I did two weeks later, Tony?

SPEAKER_13 27:26

Don't tell me you went and got another doctor.

SPEAKER_09 27:28

Of course I did. I went out and rescued another a girl, a little baby girl I call Bianca. Now, pretty just Bianca.

SPEAKER_06 27:34

Yeah. Alright.

SPEAKER_09 27:35

Now you can look her up, her her Instagram page is Bianca, and then Tiger or the Greyhound. Now, what happens, Tone? When you lose one greyhound, you get you think to yourself, and I said to Tiger, you know what I'm gonna do, mate? I'm gonna go and rescue one of the other mates out of that pound. So there's one less in that pound.

SPEAKER_13 27:51

Oh, that's fine. So it's another greyhound?

SPEAKER_09 27:55

Oh, of course it is, mate. Yeah, once you get a greyhound, you don't get back to any other breed. So we're out walking now. She's a two-year-old little felly, and I tell you what, we went out for dinner last night, she just sat next to me. She was absolutely fantastic. I've only had her for two weeks, but I tell you what, 15 hours after getting her tone, I was driving to the Anzac A march in Baronia, and she just stood there and she wonders why everyone doesn't want to pat her, because she's the most friendliest thing you've ever seen. All she wants to do is get patted by every person she sees and bumps into them as much as says, Where's my pat? What's going on?

SPEAKER_13 28:27

So, Tommy, is it love already?

SPEAKER_09 28:29

Oh, mate, she's absolutely perfect. Once you get one, you never go back. I tell you, I miss Tiger like crazy, but this one's completely different. So that's what I mean, Tom. You get knocked down, you get back up again.

SPEAKER_13 28:40

You're a good man, Tom, and you've had a few knocks over the years. Well done, you uh stay right where you are. We'll come back with more, Roger, in just a moment. 133693 from a healthy shift. Your nomination, so thank you to all these people that are calling through. I promise you we'll get to you the other side. 133693. And the uh deal is a song that sort of is a reflection, if you like, of uh the idea of working odd hours. Yep.

SPEAKER_11 29:04

The feels what are the feels?

SPEAKER_13 29:05

What describes the feels of feeling feeling of that? Uh come and join us. It's all part of Australia overnight. That's pretty much as good as it gets. If you work at night, yeah. I mean, that would be there'd be a lot of people. Uh and certainly in states like WA, it's really all about that shift work and that preparation and you know, fly and fly out for it.

SPEAKER_11 29:59

Fly and fly at people working overnight, listening to the radio. What about Zombie? That's a good song. By the cranberries.

SPEAKER_13 30:05

Oh, the oldie but a goodie, yeah, sure. Uh Zombie, that's a good night shift one. Yeah, good morning, Tone and Roger. Uh Tommy, 100% correct. Once you have a greyhound as a pet, you will never want another breed. Uh well done, Razor. Uh, and that was Glenn's nomination to uh Mondo Rock State of the Heart of the Heart. Uh Did we have what was the one I said earlier, Jay? Uh, that you found? Uh and the song now. I know. I'm about to uh just try this one. Uh have a listen to this. This might give you a bit of an idea as well. We'll come back to you, Jack, in a moment.

SPEAKER_00 30:41

Put a tingle in your fingers and a tingle in your feet. Rhythm in your bedroom, rhythm in the street, yet the rhythm of life is a powerful beat.

SPEAKER_13 30:54

About the uh the idea of trying to get the right rhythm through the day and night hours as a ship worker.

SPEAKER_11 31:00

What about the jealousy factor with nine to five from Dolly Parton? Oh yeah. Dear old Dolly with her nine to five. We've got some good ones. There's a what about it? What about another Beatles one? Here comes the Sun. Oh yes, wonderful track.

SPEAKER_13 31:16

Uh Jack in Ringwood, good morning.

Wild Night Shift Stories From Work

SPEAKER_05 31:19

Uh hey Dawn, gents. I've got a couple of funny stories about night chief, but um personally I love zombie. Zombies are great. It's it's brilliant track. Um but um but less than I Because I was working in a noisy industry printing, so we'd have uh so I used to just walk around with my headphones on and um to try and muffle out the noise of the printing machines. But um often I used to display the same type over and over again, the best off with Amander and uh tell me higher power, more than a feeling, please. Uh don't look back, cool the edges, uh living for you and feeling satisfied. And uh I used to display that and that used to just muffle out the first four hours of the shift. But I just share with you gents for years the first couple of years I used to see guys, because there's many guys on this shift, and they'd walk around with Coke cans in their hand, but took me years to realise that they were coming in with six packs of VB, but they'd cut the top off the can, a Coca-Cola can, and slice it down the side and cut the bottom so they they had the skin of a Coke can over the top of a VB. That is fantastic.

SPEAKER_11 32:29

That is fantastic. Uh not that we not we promote that of course, Roger. Yeah, I know, but times have changed. Like he's talking about back then. Yeah. I I hope you're talking about back then and not now.

SPEAKER_05 32:42

No, no, I'm talking about uh i i in in the eighties. Uh also also I had a manager on uh Night Shifter Foreman that I always thought was Asian, it wasn't until he invited me down to his locker, and I used to wonder why he always was the first to leave the floor, but the last to leave the car park. But he invited me down to the lo the locker one day and and he always had just a little bit of a let's just say a salad in there and a couple of quiet little uh billies before he headed off home.

SPEAKER_11 33:12

Happy case, Jack was. Whatever it takes to get home. Is that right?

SPEAKER_13 33:16

Uh Benny, Benny, Benny, good morning. Rogers here, Tony McGuy got for us, Benny.

SPEAKER_14 33:21

Uh Big John, Big Bad John.

SPEAKER_13 33:24

Which was the nature of Big John, Big John.

SPEAKER_14 33:30

Yeah, that's it, yeah. In the mines.

SPEAKER_13 33:32

In the mines.

SPEAKER_14 33:34

By 646. Big John, Big Bad John.

Summit Reminder And Closing Thoughts

SPEAKER_13 33:40

That was a fantastic track. We might see if we can play a bit of that very, very shortly. Well done, you. Uh Roger Sutherland, founder of a healthy shift. For those who are wondering, it's about that Night Shift Summit. Have a look at the website Nightshift Summit, which is next Thursday.com, and it's at ten o'clock this coming Thursday morning. And it's a global thing. You're one of the guest speakers.

SPEAKER_02 34:05

Monday morning, feel so bad. This is my own.

SPEAKER_13 34:38

I mean, we love what we do, but in a change, we sort of look forward to it. It's still working. Yeah, it's still working. It's still working.

SPEAKER_11 34:45

And you get to the Friday and you go, Yay! It's the focus of our. I would also argue that a lot of shift workers don't have a Monday to Friday as well. You do, but the majority, especially in frontline health and emergency services. Because they still work weekend. So they're just looking forward to. And Friday, it's still the next day off. Do you know what I mean? Like it's still your next rest day. Can't wait for that next rest day.

SPEAKER_13 35:07

We've got to say, uh Uru, uh love you work out. Thank you for that. Uh the breaking show is next. Rusts and Rusts, I'm Tony Mack. For all we know, we may never meet again.