Welcome And Monday Mornings

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Anytime you're ready, uh look at that. One job 30 second out there then. One double three, six nine three. You made me laugh. Uh the wonderful Roger Sutherland joins us every couple of Monday nights. Monday nights. Monday mornings. Monday mornings. Monday mornings, thank you. Roger Sutherland, a healthy shift.

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Nice to see you. How's your Monday IDIS going?

SPEAKER_03 0:27

Uh it's always Monday's probably the trickiest in some respects because you come out of that Sunday and I got it, you know, with a brother and a couple of people who were watching the footy yesterday. Yes. And then you go for the rest for an hour and a half and two hours.

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I heard Ross mention on the radio during the week here on 30W in Melbourne. Oh, excuse me. Um he said, is it mind over matter, Sunday nights going into Monday morning? Negative. No, it's not mind over matter. You don't think it is? No, it's circadian misalignment, is what it is. There's the answer for Ross. A lot of the reason why we really struggle early on a Monday morning is because what do we do on Saturday morning and Sunday morning?

SPEAKER_03 1:05

I've heard you say that we readjust our sleep pattern.

SPEAKER_10 1:07

Yeah, we do. And then when it comes to Monday, of course, we can't go to sleep because we've conditioned ourselves to staying up. Even that little bit later, and we'll talk about daylight saving time a bit later on. But then when you go to get up, or you can't go to sleep. I did not sleep well at all last night. I knew I was getting up for the show this morning, and subconsciously I created my own sleep anxiety. Um But you're always up early anyway.

SPEAKER_03 1:34

I am, yeah. That's why we do it this time of the morning, because you prefer this time in the morning than did it, because you'll go off now for a swim up.

SPEAKER_10 1:40

Yeah, after the show, I'll head straight to the pool. Which you do anyway. Do my swim. Yes, I do that anyway. Every day. But there's a reason why I do that, T Mac, and the reason why I do that is because it keeps me in a rhythm and a routine, and that is how I've really, really thrived. In fact, I've been watching my stats, my um heart rate monitor, and also my breath rate, since December, since I started really swimming five days a week, I've lowered my breath rate to 12 breaths a minute. Now you might think, what does that mean? But a lot of people would breathe probably around 16, 17 breaths a minute, but I've made a conservative effort to really slow my breath rate right down. And also, my heart rate is now sitting, and for someone who's 61, my heart rate is sitting at around 50 to

Circadian Misalignment Hits Hard

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51 beats per minute as well. That's low, like for a 61 year old. Um so while we're sitting here and we're talking away.

SPEAKER_03 2:38

Does that does that move up, down, during the day it does? During the day.

SPEAKER_10 2:43

Yeah, but we're talking the average resting heart rate is around 50 beats. So there'll be times when it's lower while I'm sleeping.

SPEAKER_03 2:49

How do I find out what mine is when I'm sitting here behind this microphone for a five minutes?

SPEAKER_10 2:53

Well, a lot of people a lot of people do it through um uh you know actograph watches and things like that. Speaking of watches, you'll probably find the F1 drivers are wearing um body monitoring, they're probably monitoring their vitals. I don't think you'd be wearing it. No, and feeding it back to the team. It would be I I noticed it myself to be honest. I did see it on the glove, and I looked at it and I thought, no, it'll be an actograph. It'll be monitoring all of his vitals, his heart rate. Because they they would be contributing all of that into what they're actually doing, I would suggest. Um so yeah, I I wear um I wear the aura ring um which monitors my breath rate, monitors my heart rate.

SPEAKER_03 3:30

Because it's a wrong song, but because he aura my ring, because he wears what was the song? Because he because she wears um ring Johnny O'Keefe song. Because he wears she wears an aura ring. What's an aura ring?

SPEAKER_10 3:45

Aura ring is a um uh it's O-U-R-A, Aura. Um it's a a really small lightweight ring which is full of electronics and it actually. No, it's actually really small and light. It's very stylish. Um instead of wearing the Apple Watch, which goes they go flat, you you're um even wearing the Galaxy watch and things like that from Samsung. Um these things can go flat, whereas the Aura ring will last for like seven days. There's a plug, but um Aura are fantastic, it's stylish. It the data that it spits out is incredible.

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Uh we will get back to that in just a moment. For those that don't know, uh Roger Sutherland is from A Healthy Shift after spending 40 years, how many? Forty. Forty years with Vic Pol, Victoria Police, and uh now works uh very closely with shift workers all around Australia. Uh and we invite him in every couple of weeks on the programme Australia Overnight. Uh Gavin, good morning.

SPEAKER_00 4:44

Hey Murdy.

Routine, Swimming, And Better Vitals

SPEAKER_00 4:45

Uh you're talking about Jerry's before.

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Yeah, the very, very famous Jerry's.

SPEAKER_00 4:52

Jerry Springer and Tom and Jerry.

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Uh Tom and Jerry were mentioned. Jerry Springer, what a crazy program that was, Gav.

SPEAKER_00 5:00

It was. And how are you talking about shift work? Well, I do shift work, night shift all my life for 40 years, driving trucks.

SPEAKER_10 5:08

That is incredible. 40 years, that's how long I did in the cops. That's a long, long time.

SPEAKER_00 5:13

Yeah, and night shift is the best way to do it because the trucks run better. And as my uncle would say, the kangaroos have got a bit more brains than some people in charge.

SPEAKER_03 5:24

Well, that's very true. Uh, did it how disruptive was it in terms of your lifestyle though? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:31

I've been single most of my life, and the missions I'm got now, uh, I told her I'm a truck driver and um I'm hardly ever home and work at night and she's never tried to change me.

SPEAKER_10 5:42

Jerry, I I find it interesting you said the trucks run more efficiently. Uh so you notice a big difference between driving overnight and driving during the day, not that you've driven during the day for 40 years, but is it because it's cooler and you're not stopping and starting all the time?

SPEAKER_00 5:58

Yes, and the temperatures are a lot cooler for the tyres, so they don't get as hot and you're not blowing tires all the time. And it's a lot cooler than that for the trucks. Much more pleasant.

Life On Night Shift Trucks

SPEAKER_10 6:10

Much more pleasant driving at night, too, isn't it, when there's no one else around? Hell of a lot more pleasant. And you get to listen to T Mac on the week.

SPEAKER_03 6:19

Well, there's that. That's the downside, Gab, isn't it? Good on you, Gab. Thank you very much. Very kind of you. Uh Brett, good morning to you. Hello, Brett.

SPEAKER_08 6:42

And your guest there need to go to Snake Savers.

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What are we missing?

SPEAKER_08 7:02

It is not sponsored by IWC. The glove has a print of a watch on the glove. Yeah. So the do not wear a watch at all. It is just a print on the glove. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 7:22

Uh and so you don't think that would even be a piece that is monitoring any it's puh it's purely printed on the glove, like like a sponsorship print. Yeah. Just to promote the brand.

SPEAKER_08 7:36

And that makes sense too, doesn't it? They've got all their sponsors on their race suit, they've got it printed on their gloves.

SPEAKER_10 7:43

Yeah, and it's in right in view, is too, isn't it? So you can actually see it, so it works well for the sponsors.

SPEAKER_08 7:48

It's where you would normally wear a watch. Yep.

SPEAKER_10 7:51

That makes sense.

SPEAKER_08 7:52

Yeah, yeah. Um, as for your thing being a monitor, no, it's purely a printed thing. They would um you know, the drivers would have heart monitors and that sort of thing.

Wearables And The Glove Watch

SPEAKER_08 8:05

And maybe maybe even what you were saying about one of those aura ring things, because they would they would be um or a woot band?

SPEAKER_10 8:14

We're a woot band or something like that as well.

SPEAKER_08 8:17

Yeah, as you know, you know, you said yourself, they're quite all quite non-obtrusive. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly. So you know, and they would measure that sort of stuff. Um but yeah, I just thought uh, you know. Um yeah, mate, not so much you there, old mate, but I think Marky needs to go to Stack Savers.

SPEAKER_03 8:39

Thank you, Brett. Thanks, Brad. That's very funny. Well done, Brad. That's very funny. Well, that sort of makes sense to me.

SPEAKER_10 8:45

Well, you would think that their suits would have high tech I mean, let's face it, the cars are the most high-tech things that you can get. You would imagine the suit that the driver wears would probably have inbuilt monitoring for everything at the same time. Um and when they plug the helmet in, you'll probably find they're plugging in the uh body monitoring equipment at the same time for that. Super important data for them to get. Um, do you remember the Oz Open this year as well? Whoop, uh two of the players were wearing whoop bands and got called up on that. They did. Um and Whoop in America went into an absolute meltdown around it because of the um um how dare you take our our whoop band off when it's not it's no advantage.

SPEAKER_03 9:24

And the the the sponsorship with those very high-end watch companies is really quite extraordinary in that certainly uh I noticed it more so than any of you before with the Australian Open. As soon as they come off the court as a winner, but things and their watch goes on their bag straight onto the wrist.

SPEAKER_10 9:44

Yeah, well, see, and someone's telling them this is what happens. Here's your watch, here's your cap. Yeah, you notice even the OFL footballers straight after the grand final, bang, on with the cap, sponsors' caps, everything goes on. Um people are telling them you've got to wear this, you've got to be putting that. It's pe companies pay a fortune to have this stuff seen, don't they? Because we are here talking about it now. What watch does um Oscar Piastro? Which watch? Which watch is he wearing?

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Which watching? Uh Tone, yesterday, the age, Alistair Clarkson, what brand was Alistair wearing? Well, I wasn't. I didn't see it from uh yesterday. Uh another one says, uh, how could a car driver wear a watch at his glove? They've got no time on their hands. They've got no time on their hands. Thank you, Phantom. Uh the watches are printed on the glove, which is uh essentially what everybody's saying. Uh former Hawthorne coach John Kennedy coached stall. Isn't that right at some point? I did not know that. That's a great point. Uh picture, it's a picture of the watch on the glove, thank you. And yes, Clive Palmer, what is he truly up to? Because there's advertising both in the papers. He backed Clive Palmer doing that advertising. Uh-huh. And he said he wasn't he was going out of it. There'll be a reason. Uh oh, you can back that in. Uh your call's the other side. Roger Sutherland from a healthy shift. And have we got a question that we'll ask just after the news at five not to be missed. I'm excited about this. Because you will definitely want to contribute the idea of it uh and have a view about it, have an opinion about it, and it's a movement that may start and and there'll be momentum around it.

SPEAKER_10 11:19

Oh, there will for sure. There's no doubt about it. It's always talked about in science, so let's let's get the in science.

SPEAKER_03 11:25

I tell you what, uh this is why we love the audience around Australia. Uh they're extraordinarily switched on to the little things that people uh notice. And I certainly haven't noticed. For example, Ian's telling us all George Russell gloves pictured show the same time where it's set at nine past ten. And we know why that is, don't we? Well, it displays that's why what's the one. The hands on either side of the twelve. Yeah. And so even in catalogues and things, you'll usually see that same position. I thought it was ten past, but he says nine, maybe it's more of a. Well, it's about it's going to be nine, you know, nine or ten past. You I think usually it is ten past. Yep. Ten past ten. Ten past ten.

SPEAKER_10 12:07

So it shows the hands on opposite sides of the twelve to display the watch.

SPEAKER_03 12:11

Yeah, and watch watch uh photos usually have that same shape. Every brand will use that because it it just showcases their their their product if if you like. It does. I love that that Ian's picked that up so beautifully. And it's even on the glove in the racing car.

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Yeah,

reath Training For Stress Control

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I've not noticed that. Yeah. I must admit my eye was drawn to the watch. Obviously, it's um and I thought, oh, that's weird. And then I realised, but I obviously didn't look at it close enough. I need to go to Specsovers.

SPEAKER_03 12:40

Uh Roger swims, Tony Mack, why don't you go for a swim, do 20, 30 laps after uh work?

SPEAKER_10 12:45

I do 30 after. I'll do 30 when I finish here. Um I've been doing 30 laps a um five times a week at the moment. Oh, I'm loving it. I'm absolutely loving it. Life changing? The black line of meditation is so good. What I don't understand, I do not understand those people that put these bone conducting speakers on that you know, that wear when they're swimming. Like they don't sit in your ear, they sit bone conducting and you can hear music or a podcast or whatever. I don't understand why you would do that. Don't get me wrong, but the swim is all about that time for you for you, quietly focusing on the breath. And what I'm doing is I'm actually working to get technical, I'm working on my CO2 tolerance at the moment, which is your carbon dioxide tolerance. So I'm really controlling the breath and holding it for as long as I can. And what it does is it helps to manage stress in your system because your body doesn't panic. We all breathe far too shallow. Same for men and women? Yes, exactly right. Yeah. So what happens is everyone that's whatever you're doing now, we should be breathing through our nose. We've all become very shallow mouth breathers, right?

SPEAKER_03 13:57

Oh, there's a lot of mouth breathers.

SPEAKER_10 13:58

Oh, yeah. There's a lot of mouth breathers. Yeah, there is, there's a lot. But you know, w we, I know we, even in the police and nurses, will say, Oh, all the mouth breathers, and we use it as a derogatory term, but they are the worst offenders because of the stress. Because our breath is actually what informs our stress, it's not the other way around.

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So, yeah. Uh 25 years in after growing up in Melbourne, and then the great Shane Healy invited me to join them at 6PR in Perth, for which I was most grateful back in 1999. The famous 6PR. Yep. Uh and so 25 years working in that area. What I learned about very, very quickly is how important fly-in, fly out is in the state of Western Australia. And I think in Queensland, not so much anywhere else. No, no. Those two states in particular.

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It's it's very unique state West Australia, and I want to talk to the West Australians and say thanks to the FIFO people driving around listening through 6PR in Perth. And anyone else that's doing FIFO as well. Uh, I delivered training this week into uh two resource companies in uh West Australia to educate their uh fly in, fly out staff on strategies around shift work. Now I think this is something that we need to do a lot more of because the act, like the uh in WA you've got the um what is it, the Work Health and Safety Act, whereas here it's the Occupational Health and Safety Act. Now, with that, what we do is we put controls in place. Who's we? The law. You know, the law, sorry, the statutory law that's got controls in place that says you've got to lift this safely, you've got to move that there, you've got to store this the particular way. But who's educating shift workers on how to go about shift work? Because it's very unique. And in fact, in the Work Work Health and Safety Act in

FIFO Fatigue And Employer Duty

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WA, it actually addresses FIFO and it addresses um work groups and night shift work groups. So who's educating them on how to come into, how to go through, how to come out of the night shift? And you raised a really, really valid point as well. It's so unique in the way that what we do is they go away for a week. It interrupts the family life, they go away for a week. Yeah, sometimes they can go away for a week of days and a week of nights, or a week of nights and a week of days. Come back for a week and then out again. So who's educating them and teaching them on strategies around how to manage family life around that as well? Because I think employers have got an obligation around that under the Act, right?

SPEAKER_03 16:47

So um this is where it becomes interesting as to But do employers have they have they grasped that as part of their responsibility?

SPEAKER_10 16:57

Well, I'm not sure that they have, and I'm gonna go on a bit of a uh a thing about it at the moment to say you realise you've got a statutory obligation here. Remember, we go back to law, Parliament sets the laws. So what's gonna happen if some young fella is doing a week away on FIFO and and has flown in and out of their mine up the north, comes home, gets in a car, drives home, has an accident, has a crash, and someone from work safe goes, So what education did you have around how to get out of that night shift and come through? And he goes, I've never been taught anything about that. And that is going to leave a door wide open for civil litigation.

SPEAKER_03 17:40

Uh Reese says I do 60 laps, five o'clock Gosford pool five times a week. 60.

SPEAKER_10 17:45

Is that in a 25 motor or a 50-moter pool?

SPEAKER_03 17:47

That's a hell of an effort. But done it for the past ten years. Got to go, Reese. Good on you, Reese. Thank you for that. Uh 133693 is our telephone number. Roger Sutherland's here. Uh, you won't want to miss it. We're going to ask a couple of questions uh just after the news at five. You won't want to miss it. You will want to have your say. Roger Sutherland is here. He runs a little thing called a healthy shift, where we uh talk about the uh life and challenges of uh working shift work wherever you are, whenever you've done it, uh or whether you're thinking about doing it or you've loathed it or loved it. 133693. And the other thing that's uh come up is uh in relation to uh well you you set it up for the uh listeners because I I think this is an important question that needs to be asked, and well I'd love to gauge the reaction from your proposition. Okay, so and I should point out Ross and Russ are listening down the line. They're at Castlemane.

SPEAKER_10 18:55

They're at Castlemine.

SPEAKER_03 18:56

Castlemane. Yeah, what a lovely place to be this morning. Because I was gonna say Castlemane, I've been told. No, it's not Castle Mine, it's Castlemane.

SPEAKER_10 19:04

Castlemine. Castlemane. Yep. It is indeed. Um our friend of the show, and we've spoken to her, Dr. Olivia Walsh, um the circadian scientist. We spoke to her and she has written a blog that talks about should we stay on summertime permanently or should we stay on standard time permanently? Now, it's a fascinating blog to read because it poses the question. Now you know people are divided when it comes to summertime. And you spent a lot of time in Perth where they don't have time switching.

SPEAKER_03 19:40

When I was there, they did have a did a trial a couple of years ago.

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It faded the curtains.

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It faded the curtains. Yep. And the cows wouldn't milk.

SPEAKER_10 19:48

And the cows would Oh, it was dreadful. But it actually literally has a massive circadian impact on our health. In fact, research shows quite clearly, uh, scientists absolutely put it on the record, scientists absolutely hate the time

Permanent Time Change Debate

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clock change. And the reason why they hate it is because of the impact that it has on us biologically. Now, you might think one hour is a minor dis uh just a minor discrepancy, but research shows that heart attacks and stroke go up astronomically in these times at both ends of the clock. More car accidents. Insurance companies will tell you there's more car accidents at each end of the time shift change as well. So I want to pose the question and I want people to call us in on 13693. Would you rather stay on summertime or would you rather stay on standard time? But it's going to stay that forever. And why? And why would you want to do that? Now I want to talk about the impact of both. If you were to stay on summertime, you've got to remember here in Victoria, not so much in in in like Queensland or WA, but here in Victoria, it wouldn't get light until probably 9, 9.30 in the morning if you stayed on summertime. Because your clock has been late. Yep, because as we get into the depth of winter, the clock would would leave us in the dark until later. Welcome to living in London or the UK, because that's what it would be like. Um so kids would be going to school in the dark at 7 30 in the morning. Oh, everyone would be going to work and going to so that would be one impact. So while we think of summertime today, because it's light early, you know, we're coming out of summertime now here in Victoria, whereas West Australia there's no change. But at the moment we're we're coming out, it's starting to get a bit darker in the mornings now. Um, so like you would notice when you're driving home it's darker, whereas in the middle of summer it's light. Now, I want you to remember that we're going to be on this permanent. So in the middle of winter, you would find that it's going to be dark a lot later, but it won't be light later because the clock uh because of the um The length of the day is shorter as well. I personally think well science actually I'll talk about what science tells us towards the end. I'll tell you what science tells us we should.

SPEAKER_03 22:11

Okay. Well, let's find out what people think. 133693. So the question is just to get the feedback, wherever you are, right across Australia, but certainly uh in Victoria in particular, I guess.

SPEAKER_10 22:22

Yes, a bit Victorian particularly.

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For our South Australian listeners, uh WA think have left us. So uh for our South Australian listeners, the H Radio Network right across Victoria, uh and for three AW listeners, 133693. The question is would you rather stay on standard time?

SPEAKER_10 22:41

Standard time. Or would you rather stay permanently on summertime? On summer time all year round. Permanently. Permanently. Permanently. Yeah. Once we shift the clock, we never change it again. Because it's the change that's disrupting. Not the hours per se, it's change. Uh the hours well, we're gonna spoil it's a spoiler alert. The hours do actually make a big change for us as well.

SPEAKER_03 23:05

Okay. So then how do we know which is good which is the more preferable version of it? Science tells us. Oh, okay. Marky install, you wanted your right of reply. Say hello to uh Roger.

SPEAKER_09 23:17

Good morning, Roger. I heard you're talking about five A. Like, I was an inner state craft driver for over 35 years. The hardest thing I ever found was my last job doing Melbourne.

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Yes.

SPEAKER_09 23:31

Four time zones. Keep it standard.

SPEAKER_03 23:37

Why was it four time zones?

SPEAKER_09 23:39

Because it did play with your mind.

SPEAKER_03 23:42

Why was it four time zones?

SPEAKER_09 23:45

Just as you go up Majura Pass half an hour twenty minutes later, adjust your clock four to half an hour. There is four time zones going across there.

SPEAKER_10 23:56

I didn't realise that. No, I thought there was three, but anyway.

SPEAKER_03 23:59

So there's Victoria, South Australia, and WA.

SPEAKER_09 24:03

And there's this little bit in between that says adjust your clock. Oh, right, okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_10 24:09

Interesting. We can't keep it on the same time across the globe, though. That's the problem. We can't do that because we need to have a different time across the globe. But we're talking about in the one spot.

SPEAKER_03 24:20

133693 Tom, Mandelizer, what do you think?

SPEAKER_07 25:17

Oh, good day, fellas. Look, I'm old enough to remember when in about 1972, um, maybe 71, it came in first uh summertime, and it went for three months, because it went from about um first of December to about first of February and it um that seemed to be long enough. I've I've noticed over that fifty odd years or longer, it's interesting what you guys, what the research says. And in those days, Sunday used to be almost

Callers Choose Standard Or Summer

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everything shut. Yes um and the society seems saner. I know that sounds a bit crazy, but i it's getting kids as I grew up, getting kids to bed, your own kids to bed, uh getting them a good night's sleep, functioning in schools, the whole thing I think is now if we're at six months, I think it's far too long. I would like to see it go. It operated for thousands of years before this. I'm not quite sure what the benefit great benefit is, except keep keeping people up and denying them sleep.

SPEAKER_10 26:31

I mean, I just Tom, you are absolutely one hundred percent accurate in every single thing you've just said. Getting kids to bed, we are creating mental health disorders with more and more light in a person's day. So we talked about you spoke about ADHD. Yeah, CPD oil for for that earlier. I heard you speaking about that on air when I was driving in. Um ADHD, we are not getting our light diet right. We need to get our light diet right as a priority. People need to start blocking blue. And what Tom has raised here with kids in school, massive problem. Um there's so many different issues around us changing these clocks all the time. And Tom, I really admire that what you've said there because six months is too long. Three months is probably not long enough, it's just enough to disrupt.

SPEAKER_03 27:20

Get rid of it. It's a bit it's it is that sense of disruption for uh a lot. However, uh gardeners, for example, they love it because they're out in the garden until nine o'clock at night during during the summer months. But that's not good for your health.

SPEAKER_10 27:30

Uh I know you can say it's good for your health being around the green light, but it's too much light. Uh Anthony and Pecknam, what do you think?

SPEAKER_06 27:40

Good morning, gentlemen. Uh the caller regarding the four time zones to Perth is correct. The town of Sejuna is on what they call Central West Standard Time. It's 45 minutes ahead of Perth.

SPEAKER_03 27:51

Very interesting.

SPEAKER_06 27:51

Weird, though. I was unaware of it.

SPEAKER_03 27:53

For what reason?

SPEAKER_06 27:54

I I think it's because um it's so far away from um probably the same reason why um uh China's is on one time zone. You know, that's uh yeah, because that there'd be so much different I mean, you you've got kids going to school in pitch black out in out in the western part of China. Yes and they're um yeah, and they're you know that um they're going to school in lights in place like Beijing. But the effects of um of uh dollar saving occur as for as more you go south. Like you go to Brisbane in summer, it's black by seven o'clock and it's yep and it's fully and it's sunlight by four thirty in the morning. Yep. The further south you go, the more effective. In in Hobart, they're playing district cricket at nine o'clock at night.

SPEAKER_03 28:42

Yeah, that's right. Very good point. Too much light. Uh too much light for you. Uh Roger, have you ever thought about standing as a candidate uh for uh politics? You'd be perfect to sort out various issues. I don't know if my opinions count, but yeah. Well, I'll know everybody's opinion counts. Yeah. Uh we've got to do this. We'll have a quick uh touch base with I think we're gonna talk to you with Shane A. Bassett very quickly for an Oscar preview, which gets underway very shortly. For those callers that are waiting, promise you we'll get to you next. It's all part of Australia overnight. We're looking at the idea at those time zones uh uh based on what Roger has asserted. What do you reckon? Look at that. Uh Eastern Say should adopt uh the South Australian Standard Time permanently, uh the uh and no daylight saving uh time. Uh Shanay Bassett, who contributes to the programme, usually on a Friday, but it's a big morning coming up. I think it starts at 10 Oscars this morning, Channel 7.

SPEAKER_05 29:35

Good morning. Uh yeah, I can't wait. Uh actually the ceremony will start at eleven, and the red carpet will kick off about 9, 9.30 a.m. Uh, what are we going to look for in terms of winners? Definitely I've got uh one battle after another cleaning up. It's got 13 nominations, and I think it'll win eight or nine of those. There might be a few upsets with Sinners, which has sort of had some momentum coming into this. Sinners has broken a record with uh 16 nominations, so that's pretty massive because you know Titanic had 14. So it's even two more than Titanic. Uh I do believe the Australians are gonna be need a miracle to win, unfortunately. We've got a few nominated, but uh it's gonna be tough for them. Rose Byrne in actress, Jason Jacob Balordi supporting actor, Frankenstein. He he is probably our biggest chance if there is gonna be an upset. Nick Cave, uh best original song for Train Dreams. And we've also got some Aussies in some um art some artistry uh sections, uh the production design and visual uh effects, which they're part of an ensemble group nominated uh Sinners and Hamnet.

SPEAKER_03 30:44

But uh we'll see what happens there. It'd be great for uh Shane, thank you for that. It'd be great with uh Nick Cave to uh get up here. Much loved Nick Cave. What a genius he is. Uh Shane, thank you, my friend. Uh sorry we've got to move on. In Morford Vale, uh Nicholas Sailor to Roger.

SPEAKER_04 31:00

Hey, Roger. Morning, Nicholas. Um I was thinking you know how the AFL

Quick Oscars Preview Break

SPEAKER_04 31:08

are changing the rules and they're trying to change the rules in their game. Yep. Now we're trying to change the timeline of our country. You don't believe that's correct.

SPEAKER_03 31:19

No, I don't think we're trying to do Nicholas.

SPEAKER_10 31:21

In fairness, we're not trying to do that. No, we're not we're not trying to change the time. We're just asking. I I believe, and science will tell us, we need to go back to standard time and stay there permanently. That's the answer.

SPEAKER_03 31:32

Thank you for that. Tommy, you get up nice and early most days. Say hello to Rog.

SPEAKER_01 31:36

Morning, Tommy. Hello, Roger and T Mac, mate. What do you mean most days? T Mac, I'm up early every morning. Every morning. It's 4 30 quarter to five, mate. It's pretty simple. When you said a big day's coming up, T Mac, I thought you were correct, because uh America played Dominican Republican today at 11 o'clock in the morning. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 31:53

We'll be watching that very closely. Uh do you love the idea of the time zones and the the the daylight saving or not, or it doesn't bother you, Tommy?

SPEAKER_01 32:01

Well what it is, T Mac, it's just a time. So it doesn't matter. Like in summer, like I just said, it's five o'clock it's light a.m. But it doesn't matter, T Mac, it's just the time. So we don't work on the time, but whatever it is has to be done at that time of day. That's what gets done, mate. So we have a little bit of light at the end.

SPEAKER_10 32:18

Tommy. We all like a little bit of light at the end, but Tommy, can I just say quickly, don't look at the clock on the wall. It's the body clock that has the problem. That's the issue.

SPEAKER_03 32:27

Uh see, I just you think it's it's not the time on the wall.

SPEAKER_10 32:31

It's never the time on the wall, it's the time in the body clock.

SPEAKER_03 32:34

The body clock. Uh Tommy, we're gonna fly through some of these. Uh Ian Adelaide, hello Sandy, what do you think?

SPEAKER_02 32:39

Oh I yeah, I'm uh I can keep it one way or the other.

Body Clock Reality And Wrap

SPEAKER_02 32:42

I'm a truck driver as well. Yeah, and you know, when when it first starts, you're gonna have it at two o'clock or three o'clock in the morning, you're up at two o'clock, so it stuffs your body. And then at the end you get used to it. And at the end of the day, it's hard because you're you're waking up at two o'clock instead of three o'clock and you're at the end of the day and you can't get back to sleep because your body costs used to it. So keep it one way or the other.

SPEAKER_10 33:03

Agreed. So standard time is the safest, and science tells us that standard time is the best way to go, um or and the way that we should be going. Do you know I was going to say one thing too, T-Mate. Do you know time zone, states in the US that go to summertime and states that don't next to it, even though they're across the border, the health differences between the two communities is well documented. Those that are not on summertime are so much healthier than those that are.

SPEAKER_03 33:34

Which is intriguing, really. Uh Andy, we will come no, we haven't got time for answering. No. Okay, we've got to do this. All right, sorry, Jay. Thank you. We're trying to race as much as we possibly can. Look at him out there, waves his arms around telling us what to put off. You think he was in charge? And look at all these wonderful text that we just haven't got to as well. Uh we will get to them the other side of this. Don't forget Rost and Rust's live this morning, Castlemane. Castlemine. Oh. Fantastic. Wonder if they've still got the Castlemaine Rock. I don't know. Castlemine Rock's delicious. Uh quite for dentists. Uh Rust, can you bring some beautiful Castleman rock home for us?

SPEAKER_10 34:27

Thank you.