SPEAKER_09 0:01

Ladies and gentlemen, time for a healthy gift. Roger Soveland, as you may or may not know, from a healthy gift. Forty years, how many? 40. 40 years in Vic Pol, Victoria Police. And now just uh leads a life of leisure. Doesn't do too much of it.

SPEAKER_08 0:35

I don't think there's too much leisure, unfortunately.

SPEAKER_09 0:37

Well, why aren't you why aren't you uh taking more leisure time? That's an excellent point, one that Melissa asks me often. I'll bet she does. Uh because you're constantly on the R-U-N.

SPEAKER_08 0:51

R-U-N. On the run. Yeah, I am. Well, I've dedicated my retirement to actually helping shift workers. Uh well, trying to help them to recover from the pickle and the mess that they're in at the moment. Um it's a really, really brutal world shift working uh specifically here in Australia, but more so it well, around the world as well, because we're we're horrendously short-staffed. Um leadership seems to be lacking in a lot of areas as well at the moment, which is causing a lot of angst amongst the rank and file younger.

SPEAKER_09 1:26

Um I just think that the thing is uh in the service. I think it's culturally we lack great leadership.

SPEAKER_08 1:34

Yeah, we do. Uh because people won't have hard

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SPEAKER_08 1:37

conversations because we've bred a generation of snowflakes as well, so people are too scared to actually have that conversation. We've bred snowflakes. We've got it in again. We've got what is a snowflake that we have bred. How how soft is a snowflake? It's got no resilience in any way whatsoever. And unfortunately, with the way I see politics has gone today as well, we've we've we've we've just developed such a awoke society now. A society of people wandering around looking for a place to be a victim. And they have uh they're sensitive to absolutely everything that's going on instead of just getting on with it and going, that's what happens and moving on with things. We we listen to our vocal minority, unfortunately, um all through our left side of politics at the moment, very much are listening to the left to

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SPEAKER_08 2:34

the um to the woke people, the vocal minority. And I think once we um we need to stand up, and I think this is in all honesty, I think this is one of the main reasons why One Nation's starting to really generate a lot more support in politics, because they're they've never wavered on what they stand for.

SPEAKER_09 2:53

But I think I think each and every one of us historically you know people say, well, what's the answer? What's the answer to life? We're all looking for the answer. Yep.

SPEAKER_08 3:04

There is no answer. Yeah, I know, but we're not on the right track now, whatever that is. We're not on the right track. We can't the right track to what? Well well, to a good and well put it this way, I'll ask you this question. Do you in society feel safe today? Yeah. You feel safe? Do you? Mm-hmm. Yeah, okay. Well, I don't. And maybe it's because of my own knowledge and because of the people that I communicate with today. We have got to the stage now where a lot of stuff that is occurring in this state in particular is actually not even reportable news anymore because it's just become so common.

SPEAKER_09 3:40

I I feel we'll take some calls 133693 when Roger's here. While Roger's here. Yep. Um and thank you for coming in, by the way, this time of the morning. I I love it when you're here for a uh Monday morning. Bit of energy? Well, it just gives me the energy. I don't know about it, but it's it's good for me. Yeah. The the idea of thinking that somehow we're I don't want to live in fear, Roger. No, I agree.

SPEAKER_08 4:07

I don't want to live in fear. Neither do I. No one does in this state. Or any of the. Around Australia, by the way. Around Australia.

SPEAKER_09 4:13

This is not just unique to Victoria. So we're not why would we want to live in fear? And so I choose not to live in fear. Yeah, I agree. Now I'm also I'm also acutely aware that there are some issues that should be, need to be, will be addressed in the fullness of time.

SPEAKER_08 4:32

Oh can you say they will be? I think they will be. Why would they not be? Well, they don't seem to be addressing them now. Well, who's not addressing them? Well, the Premier's standing there watching the state on fire at the moment.

SPEAKER_09 4:44

Well, the only way around that is that we have the election, which will come up later this year, and then people will decide whether or not they want a change of government. Well, do we have faith in the other side at the moment? Then this is the question as well. Have we got faith in the alternative? In the alternative.

SPEAKER_08 4:59

I'm not too sure about that. I suspect perhaps not fully yet. You closely watch the media, you closely watch the polys. Are we in a position where we have L I was Yeah, I don't know. I I I just feel that we're just wearing different clothes but got the same idealations at the moment. So what would be the answer to that?

SPEAKER_09 5:22

I mean I'm always asking.

SPEAKER_08 5:23

But this is why one nation is rising everywhere.

SPEAKER_09 5:26

But can you guarantee that one nation the right will be uh that extreme right will be the answer either?

SPEAKER_08 5:34

No, but the people see that they've got the policy, and the policies have not changed on their their stance on everyone's.

SPEAKER_09 5:40

Well, the policy would simply get rid of anybody in her words who's a Muslim. Yeah, it was a poor choice.

SPEAKER_08 5:49

It was a really poor choice. It was a really poor choice. But that's where it sits for them. But they're cashing in on that and they're sitting on that. But I think listening to her.

SPEAKER_09 5:57

I think her words were something along there. There's no such thing as a good Muslim. Yeah, which is awful.

SPEAKER_08 6:00

And she's been called out on that by everybody. Yeah. And I'm sure I don't know what her commentary is around that statement, but it it came out, um, which clearly was very poor. But I think Pauline's uh policy the way she talks, the way she speaks in relation to a lot of things. I think a lot of people are looking for the answer, and she makes sense in relation to that. Well, let me tell you this the answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind.

SPEAKER_09 6:25

Is blowing in the wind. It absolutely is. The answer is blowing in the wind. Now, who wrote that?

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SPEAKER_08 6:35

It wasn't Hall of Notes. Bob Dylan. Bob Dylan, that's right. It wasn't Hall of Notes.

SPEAKER_09 6:39

No, around that era. Bob Dylan. See, I said it wasn't Hall of Notes, and it wasn't. So he so he was I mean he was singing that in the 60s. Yeah, that's right. The answer, my friend, is blowing in the We're still looking for the answer. We go through life looking for the answer. Yeah, we do. There is no answer. This is it. This is as good as life gets. Yeah, right now, this is as good as life gets.

SPEAKER_08 7:06

You don't get any better. No, yeah, uh no, not at the moment. That's right. That's a f that's a fair statement.

SPEAKER_09 7:12

But even even in six months' time, twelve months' time, it will be a new version of this. Yep. This is and it will be the best life then, too. It'll be the best life then. Yeah. So why do we take this down? This is as good as life gets right now.

SPEAKER_08 7:29

Okay, but go back, go let's go back 40 years to the image of Australia and how Australia was. Forty years ago.

SPEAKER_09 7:36

It's different times, different people, different.

SPEAKER_08 7:39

It is. It it is absolutely. But it was different culture, you've said. What have we got now as culture? It's a different culture and we can manage it, can't we?

SPEAKER_09 7:50

Oh no, I don't think we can manage it. I don't think we are. Don't use the look at this, don't use the word woke. Woke means that people care about the future. And so we sometimes misuse that word woke as if it's almost a derogatory term. Yeah, fair cool.

SPEAKER_08 8:11

I'll take that.

SPEAKER_09 8:11

Uh Pam Matalizer, you wanted to say, talking about great shift work, say hello to uh Roger. Roger, say hello to Pam.

SPEAKER_00 8:19

Good morning, Roger and Tony. Yes, I've been listening to your program, Roger, when you come on every fortnight, and I've been meaning to give you a call. I worked in as a registered nurse for 37 years. Amazing.

SPEAKER_09 8:35

Well done. Well done.

SPEAKER_00 8:37

Yes, in the big public hospital system. I didn't work in smaller private hospitals. And of that time, eight and a half years were spent on night shift, and I did four ten and a half hour shifts a week.

SPEAKER_08 8:52

In a row. Yep.

SPEAKER_00 8:55

Yes, in a row.

SPEAKER_08 8:56

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 8:57

Because the children were small and it made it easier for raising our three children.

SPEAKER_08 9:02

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 9:03

Um, because their mother was always around, but unfortunately their mother was always battered around because of the lack of sleep that I got. And um I remember when I came off night shift, my eldest son was fifteen. And his comments to me were after a couple of months of day shift, Mum, you are a completely different person to the one that you were on night shift.

SPEAKER_08 9:32

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 9:34

Because I look back at it now and I was a grumpy, horrible thought because I was only getting about four and a half to five hours sleep a day if I was lucky. But and during the summer it was just terrible trying to sleep.

SPEAKER_08 9:49

Yeah. Um I agree. Your son was also fortunate enough to be able to wear the latest night shoes and wear the new clothes and be able to go to the school excursions and things like that because you were working and working and earning good money and being able to do that as well. I'm not making excuses, but do you believe it's a great observation that your son's made that you're a different person altogether? I've been told that by my own children as well, um, after 40 years. Our new normal totally changes, doesn't it? Like what what we every single day it's chipping away at us until we completely lose ourselves, and then we end up with what is a new normal, and we accept that as our new normal, and this is a huge problem for us, isn't it? Until we step away. And then did you find that life seemed to become boring? It became flat and flatlined. How did you feel about that?

SPEAKER_00 10:47

No, I didn't because I still continued to do exactly the same things that I did when I was on night shift. I still had to, you know, get up, pick them up from school at half past three, and then I had to run them to their sporting activities, and I had to come home and do the cooking, and then I had to, you know, rush around and do the washing and get all the school lunches ready and get myself ready and go back to work. But no, I don't think uh it became boring at all, Roger. It just became different. It was just a different lifestyle. The fact that I got to sleep in bed with my husband seven nights a week, um, which was much nicer, of course, but I realised now I was so sleep deprived that I became very um uh difficult to live with and uneasy with the children.

SPEAKER_08 11:40

Did you realise that at the time, no Pam? No, you don't.

SPEAKER_00 11:44

No, I didn't really. No, you don't realize snap a lot quicker at them and and not be more not be understanding and and sit down and listen. I was always too busy and rushing around, you know, oh yes, we'll talk about that later. And then I realized on when I got onto a normal day shift, I had more time and more patience and more tolerance and a lot more understanding of what it must be like for them.

SPEAKER_09 12:10

What a great call, Pam. Thank you for sharing that. And that's not an unusual claim, isn't it?

SPEAKER_08 12:15

This is common with most people. And and this is what I talk about on my socials for shift workers. Are you turning up as the best version of yourself for your family and the people around you? Because you quickly learn, once you step out of it, that you weren't.

SPEAKER_09 12:30

Lots of calls we'll get to them the other side. One double three. It's a great call, though, I gotta say. Because I think there would be many around Australia that would identify with that. Totally. And you know, and even in this thing that I'm doing, as much as I love it, it comes It's isolating. It comes with a price.

SPEAKER_08 12:49

Well, it does because it when you're outside of doing this.

SPEAKER_09 12:53

And I saw a lot of people do this, including the great Keith McGowan, uh, who from time to time would be challenged by this.

SPEAKER_08 13:01

Well, we I'll tell you where you notice it when you want to pick your phone up and look at your phone to read something, and someone goes, Hey, Tony, and you go, No, wait, wait, wait, wait, stop, stop. I just need to read this, and that's where you realise. Yeah, thank you.

SPEAKER_09 13:16

Thank you. Have you been talking to stop it?

SPEAKER_08 13:20

I didn't even mean that. I apologize.

SPEAKER_09 13:22

No, in the thank you. You've just stabbed that wound. Roger Sutherland, I'm Tony McManus. You can join us 133693. And I think you're right about One Nation on the basis that the uh in the the polls would suggest, not that you can really always believe polls, but the uh the current polls would suggest that one nation are up there and probably even just nudging the coalition.

SPEAKER_08 13:43

Do you think the coalition should form an alliance with one nation moving forward in politics?

SPEAKER_09 13:50

I think if they're for their survival for their survival. For their survival, they probably are gonna get to the point where they would have no choice button. I don't think they've got any choice now. No, they haven't. Uh Joe and Adelaide, hello, what do you think?

SPEAKER_03 14:04

Look, I want to be honest, about 15 years ago, I would say definitely not. One nation, Pauline Hansen, the whole thing, I'd bet I was against it all. Okay? Now, mind you, my family's from Lebanon. I was born here, but if you look at me, you think that my family's from somewhere else. So just so you know, a lot of ethnic people, I speak on like Middle Eastern people, we don't mind so much that there's a little bit of racism. That's okay. We we can handle it. Because a lot of ethnics come from countries that they can't even get food. There's a lot more bigger problems than someone saying, Oh, go back to your country. Like, we don't mind that. Like, it is horrible to say, but there's bigger issues in life. So when we see someone like One Nation, Pauline Hansen, and we see that they actually stand for something for a better country. I actually think a lot of do like what she stands for. So yeah.

SPEAKER_09 15:00

Good on you, Joe. Thank you, Tanya. Morning.

SPEAKER_01 15:04

Oh, good morning again, Tony. Good morning, Roger.

SPEAKER_08 15:07

Good morning, Tanya.

SPEAKER_01 15:09

Um, I actually agree with that gentleman, because I believe even 35 years ago, listening to Pauline Hansen, if someone had possibly given her a little bit of, I guess, training and managed her and so she could be a bit more uh and she could actually articulate her message out a lot better than what she did, even though right now I believe she is speaking and uh wanting what the majority of Australians want these days.

SPEAKER_08 15:40

I I agree.

SPEAKER_01 15:41

She's actually standing up for what she believes, and I believe that the majority of Australians believe and want the same thing.

SPEAKER_08 15:49

And Tonya, she's never swayed from it, has she?

SPEAKER_01 15:52

Never ever has she changed her opinion, and I mean she's admitted when she's been wrong. Yes, she's been crucified many times, but I have to admit, I will be voting for her, definitely, because she is sticking to her beliefs, and I think if she could pull it off, absolutely she'll die on that hill, won't she?

SPEAKER_08 16:13

She'll she'll stand there and die on that hill.

SPEAKER_01 16:16

Yes, a hundred percent she would.

SPEAKER_08 16:18

And that's what we look for, don't we, Tonya? That's what we look for in the politics. Somebody's gonna stand on die on their hill.

SPEAKER_09 16:23

Maybe. Um be very careful for what you wish.

SPEAKER_08 16:27

Oh, I totally agree with that too. Pete Somerville, good morning.

SPEAKER_07 16:32

Oh, hi. Uh yes, look, I I'd like to point out uh there's there's a few facts that about um Muslims that um people just I I I think there's a real education vacuum there, and I uh I I'm gonna read a little bit of what I put on on an SPS um video on YouTube that uh caused them to pause the um uh comments. And and I I begin with my comment here Muslims see the great Prophet Muhammad as an example in Muslim behavior and the perfect man. So so the it's a simple question of what is what is he like? He well, he one thing he had was a sex slave who bore him a son called Ibrahim. His third wife was a six-year-old girl called Aisha. Um, and you can find out uh you know at what age he consumated the marriage. It's all in the public record, and and it's a question that's it it's such a different call of culture or religion or whatever you like to call it, that we don't even know what questions to ask. And this caused SBS to pause the um the the uh uh um questions and it says strong criticism has been leveled at one nation at all enhancements, blah, blah, and um um uh uh in order to maintain our community guidelines and respectful conversation, we have decided to pause comments. And and and they're not interested in any facts or education as to what what um um um Muslim goals

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SPEAKER_07 18:12

are. It's it's it's um nobody wants to do their homework.

SPEAKER_09 18:18

Well, I mean a lot of that uh is is unpalatable uh to many, uh just in some of the things that you've uh just mentioned. It it's unpalatable to to most of us. And yet, presumably what you're also saying is that there are many, many people inside that community who think that that is acceptable.

SPEAKER_08 18:43

Oh, t that's right, because that is their rel and I think their religion, that it's what it is. I think one of the biggest problems that we have today is and and and we lose the point. People flee a country and flee what they're running away from, wherever it is. And then they come to this lucky country that's a lot of people.

SPEAKER_09 19:02

By the way, that's what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_08 19:03

Yeah, so exactly for everything, you know, Africans and and and Muslims, everyone comes from their own areas running. Muslims are a religion, it's not a problem But what I'm saying is they come, but then they don't integrate. This is the problem that I feel that they want to push this culture onto us and expect us to accept that in our own country. Because if we went there and did our way, like if we were to wear singlets and shorts and walk around in the Middle East, we would be in a bit of strife.

SPEAKER_09 19:36

We'd be in a lot of strife and would be heavily penalised. But very heavily. That's the point. Uh can you imagine can you imagine our women folk in that part of the world occasionally in various levels of dress or undress. The way they dress here, yeah. Yeah, that's right. In St. Killer, hello, Chris.

SPEAKER_06 19:56

Good morning, Tony. Let me just start off with thank God we have a third party, hopefully, to vote for in Pauline Hanson. I think the bulk of Australia is supporting her, and I think we're not seeing true leadership by Mr. Albanese and Penny Wong and Tony Burke, who likes to celebrate um many, many of these um greetings advised brides, apparently. But um my my point I want to make this morning, rather than getting into this too heavy, although it it can't be described any other way, is the massacre that took place in Bondi, but also the the massacre that's taken place in Iran. They've underquoted this too, apparently. So thousands of people have been murdered by the murder squads of Iran. They've turned off the power, they've shut everything down, they still can't get it out there.

SPEAKER_09 20:51

Agree, there's no question about that. Agree, Chris.

SPEAKER_06 21:49

Yep, so what do we do? What do we do? We need to look at what's happening in Sydney. Apparently, there are suburbs there that are already um we've lost Chris.

SPEAKER_09 22:03

Did we lose Chris? Did we for some reason just disappeared? Not too sure why, Chris. We've you've got a bad look. Sorry, Chris, go on, just finish that sentence. Yeah, I'm I'm here. I'm here.

SPEAKER_06 22:13

Um it's just unfortunate what's going on.

SPEAKER_09 22:19

Um hang on one second, one second. Rog, why don't you interview, why don't you uh introduce rather a very special guest? This is a thing called the glass bowl method.

SPEAKER_08 22:35

Yeah. Um meal prepping. We all absolutely hate meal prepping, don't we? Like it's no one enjoys it at all. Everybody struggles with meal prepping. We know we've got to do it because it's just healthy living. And today I've actually got a guest which I've identified. With an amazing solution for all of us, and this is absolutely incredible what he's come up with. Jesse, welcome to the show and share with us how the glass bowl method came about.

SPEAKER_05 23:06

Hey, good morning, fellas. Thanks for having me today. So the the glass bowl method is something that I came up with through my own personal struggles with gaining and losing weight throughout my life. From a young age, I was super overweight and I lost, ended up losing 40 kilos in high school. But that was really just the beginning of a lot of weight issues because after that I struggled with gaining and losing yo-yo dieting in my early 20s. And then after a recent trip overseas, a long trip overseas, I came back and I once again I was super overweight. So this kind of forced me to come up with something that was not only going to help me lose weight again, again, but also then make maintaining that easy once I've got to the other side. And using this this method that we're going to talk about, um, that I ended up losing 21 kilos and the last two years I've I've kept it off.

SPEAKER_08 24:13

Yo-yo

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SPEAKER_08 24:13

dieting's a real problem, isn't it, Jess, for people? Because every single time we lose weight and regain weight, it takes it's really difficult for us to actually re-lose it every single time. Can you can you give us Oprah used to talk about that? Oh, Oprah talked about it a lot. All right, because what we've got to realise is we don't actually lose fat cells. They they just we just lose the contents of them, but they do multiply every time we put weight back on again. Jess, give our listeners a visual of what glass bowl prepping actually looks like.

SPEAKER_05 24:49

Yeah, okay. So I'll give you one of my most popular recipes. For example, um, it's a chicken pesto, chicken and rice um dish. And to to make it, I'll go through it really simply. So to make it, all you need is a bit of uncooked rice, chuck in some uncooked chicken, pesto, yogurt, a bit of veg, a bit of stock, salt and pepper, chuck it in the oven, and that's it. You're done.

SPEAKER_08 25:18

It's that simple.

SPEAKER_05 25:19

It's literally that simple.

SPEAKER_08 25:21

Yeah, and if people look at Jess on his social media, that sounded literally like one of his videos that he does, and he literally shows you very simply how it does, and we'll get to where he is because it's incredible. Now you you've created a book that people can actually buy which shows this, and it's a digital download, so it's fantastic. How many glass bowl recipes have you currently got in the book, Jess?

SPEAKER_05 25:45

Uh so in currently, right now, I've got 140 recipes, and um part of the deal when you grab the book, um, it comes with updates. So I'm continuing to add more recipes every couple of months, and the goal is to get it sort of over 200 so that there is so much diversity there that just about anyone will be able to find recipes that they genuinely love and can stick to for a long time.

SPEAKER_08 26:12

It's incredible. So and we've got breakfast, we've got lunches, we've got dinners in there. What about like can we adapt those recipes to suit a family?

SPEAKER_05 26:21

Yeah, 100%. So the the idea behind them is like everything that I've that I've made is single syrup, but then you can just take that and multiply it or triple it or quadruple it, put it in a massive dish, and all of a sudden you've got dinner for the whole family sorted. Um, so they're very versatile.

SPEAKER_08 26:41

Absolutely incredible. Now, we've got people listening now that are on the way to work. The alarms just shocked them, woken them up, they're in a rush. And what does it ever as well it does because we're we're here now in in Melbourne and it's it's 13 minutes past five. So they're probably driving to work and they've rushed out the door. But you've got the solution for them because they can just go to the fridge, grab two of the glass bowls because they've got breakfast and lunch, tell me, give me two quick reci not recipes, but give me two quick ones that they've just grabbed out of the fridge that's going to really

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SPEAKER_08 27:12

light them up for the day that they feel really quite proud of themselves for.

SPEAKER_05 27:16

Yeah, so so one of the recipes that that's going extremely viral at the moment, everybody's loving it, I'm loving it, is it's it's a chia seed pudding. And um the the cool thing about those is that there's so many different versions that you can make. So the one that's really popular at the moment is a coconut mango one, and it's full of fiber, it's got protein, it's got everything you need. And the good thing about that, you just mix it straight in the fridge after a few hours, ready to go. So that would be the first thing that I would suggest that someone could grab for breakfast. And then for lunch, another thing that's quite popular right now with my recipes is a really basic chicken cucumber salad. Um, again, it's super quick. Chuck them, you can make a whole bunch of them, chuck them in the fridge for the week, and then in the morning, grab them, you're sorted. Breakfast done, lunch done.

SPEAKER_08 28:07

Sitting on the passenger seat, feeling as proud as punch. Jesse, your social media is insanely good. Can you tell people where they can find your social media and then where can they get this incredible book from? Because it's a digital download that you can carry with you on your phone, and you can just go, Oh, I need an idea, and the idea is there. Where can people find you and see who you are, see your story, and then where can they get the book from, Jess?

SPEAKER_05 28:35

Yeah, so um on YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, all the social media platforms, you'll find me under the name Jesse's PT. All one word. Jesse P P. Um and the link to my book is always going to be found in the bio of all of those social media pages. I highly recommend this.

SPEAKER_09 28:54

And I'll Jesse, thank you for getting up nice and early for us.

SPEAKER_08 28:56

Yeah, I I appreciate it, Jess. Thank you so much, and uh good luck with it. It's just the most insane thing ever.

SPEAKER_09 29:03

Good on your cover. Thank you. Have you ever met uh uh uh Delta Goodrum? No, but I'd really like to. Okay, watch this space. Straight after this, Australia overnight. Now, Roger, I can see you're getting all decked out and all ready for uh Eurovision 2026. How could you not? You live for Eurovision. I do. How could you not? I love that Eurovision. Where is it? Uh in Europe, so we uh sail out of Clint Dreeberg. Clint Dreeberg is a dear friend of this program uh for many years, and he brings news of uh the great well, the Australian, if you like, who will be representing uh this wonderful nation.

SPEAKER_10 29:39

What great news? Uh yeah, some exclusive news, boys. Good morning, yes.

SPEAKER_09 29:43

Well well, except it's already it's all through the it's already through the papers this morning as well. But no. It's true. There you go.

SPEAKER_10 29:51

Okay. Good point. Delta Goodrum is going to Vienna, Vienna. The 70th Eurovision song contest. And yes, it's the tenth time Australia's been involved, and we probably perhaps maybe we're saving the best till last. Of course, we all know and love Delta for the years. She's been up and down our charts since 2001 when she first released her song. And she was on uh neighbours, she went on Ramsey Street, remember?

SPEAKER_02 30:14

Nina on Ramsey Street in Delta Goodrum.

SPEAKER_10 30:16

Um, but I have the exclusive bit for you, Tony. Do you want to hear what Delta's gonna sing? All right, please go have a listen. Is this four minutes?

SPEAKER_09 30:25

No, no. I hope not. Here it is. This is the song from Delta for Eurovision 2026. Here we go. Who put all that all together?

SPEAKER_10 31:00

You can see the win machines, can't you? Yeah, she's worked with a huge um array of producers. The video clip is absolutely astounding. It's uh set in a sand tune, uh backdrop of uh Australia. That's what she's going to be singing on the stage in Eurovision. Eurovision gets underway on Tuesday, the 12th of May. Australia participates that Thursday in the competition, and then hopefully Delta will get us through to the grand final on uh Saturday night, the 16th of May. We didn't do too well last year, lads, whether you remember with Gojo, the milkshake man. So, Delta, I can only go better than that.

SPEAKER_09 31:32

The milkshake man. Uh you're right about that. So, how does it work? Just remind people, so she will perform at once, twice, three times?

SPEAKER_10 31:41

Probably about 15 different times, but the important time she is doing is the semifinal. So Australia has to participate with all the other countries. We are in a thing called the second semi-final. If everyone votes enough for us, then we get through to the big finale on the Saturday night where there's about 20 countries that go through. So it's a competition. Uh, I like to describe it as the Olympics of song, Tony. And we're participating again uh for the tenth time uh this year. It'll be the 70th Eurovision. And to send Delta Goodrum is a huge deal. I mean, when you ha you know, she's sold like nine million records, so you you know, we're really playing with the big boys, and she like likes to think she's uh following the footsteps of people that she's idolised, Celine Dion and Olivia John, uh to name just a couple. There's a little bit of Celine in

Religion, Integration, And Tension Points

SPEAKER_10 32:27

there, just a touch. She's absolutely beautiful. Yeah, she is, and that song I think really does it uh does us proud in a way that really Delta can sing. She can go all the octaves, can't she?

SPEAKER_08 32:38

Yeah, she can. Top and bottom. She's fantastic and she's easy on the eye for people. They'll in they'll really like her. That's right. Well, it's about her talent. Yes. It's about her talent. Oh, and don't forget how it's not alright. It's not just a lot of it.

SPEAKER_10 32:53

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_09 32:53

It's a visual representation as well. I know. I'm just I'm just trying to antagonise. Get a rise out. Get a rise. The uh and I'm sure that people, because it's Delta, somebody that we've known and loved, as you say, for many a decade now, that in itself is going to be of interest.

SPEAKER_10 33:15

Yeah, but don't forget, this is about the world, Tony. So people have to know Delta around the world, and she's made that. But from an Australian point of view, to get out there and barrack I'm thinking about. Exactly. We're barracking, but we need the rest of the world. And she's she's done the hard yard, she's done the festivals in the UK, she's been to Malta and sang on stage there. She wrote that song with some really great producers, done the video clip with people who've worked with Snoop Dogg and all that sort of stuff. So it's got world class on it, and that's what we need to participate in Eurovision, and hopefully, Delta can bring home the uh sparkly crystal microphone come back.

SPEAKER_09 33:48

Oh, Clint, uh, thank you for sharing that with us. We might play a bit more of that uh later on. Um, Margaret River, Jason, thank you for waiting. I think we've got you back. You wanted to say.

SPEAKER_04 33:57

Um, yeah, I was calling up earlier to talk about lithium just because I keep hearing the advertisements every 90 seconds from your station regarding it.

SPEAKER_09 34:07

Um every 90 seconds is a bit of a stretch story, but go on.

SPEAKER_04 34:11

Sorry, maybe maybe two and a half minutes. Don't quote me on that. Um it was more addressing the previous conversation about this new war in Iran, and I just thought in my head, most people don't actually know enough to hearing a lithium ad that I think it's eighty, ninety percent of the world's lithium is mined from the Congo, and it is mined by bare hand, and the death toll per annum in that country for mining specific resource is ridiculous. Um I just find it hard that that is the main piece in everyone's current smartphone at the moment, and most of us are probably unaware as to that, but um the second a bomb goes off, everyone's um eyes over here.

SPEAKER_09 34:56

Yeah, look, and Jason, you make a great point around that. And I think there's, you know, and the other thing too that probably used to irritate me, and it still goes on, where uh there are a very young children um, you know, that are doing, you know, placing beads and things onto dresses and and uh um costumes. Yep. And we buy that stuff and then we wear it three times and then throw it out. Yep. Yes. And so that's a real concern for me, but it's not an issue that makes the front page of the paper. No, no. Which I think is what Jason's uh it's a great point. It really is. It is. Uh we've got to do this when we come back. You'll uh no, we're sort of oh, I can't believe we look at the time, it's well and truly against us. Now, young Roger, yes. Young Roger. Look at you. Well, I'm young. Look at the way you pick that up so beautifully. Of course. Uh do you remember the band Chain? I do. Uh do you remember the name Phil Manning? No, I can't say. Phil Manning was the Australian guitarist, played league guitar with Chain. Right. There would be people right across this audience very familiar with the band Chain. For example, it sounds a bit like harmonica. Don't look black and blue. Phil Manning today is a birthday boy. He's 78. Happy birthday, Phil. Time I just kidding. Exactly the time I just kidding. It is also having a birthday 78. Happy birthday, uh Jeff. Uh thank you for coming in. Thank you for my building. I'm telling you my call now we might never make a game.