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It is the Dodge. It's the theme of the Rodge, the Dodge Roger Sutherland, who spent how many decades? Four. Four decades as a police officer in the great state of Victoria. These days, what is it you do? I coach shift workers and help them to thrive. And if you would like to know more, you can have a look at a healthyshift.com, a healthyshift.com. Numerous resources and links for your help. Roger, good morning. Good morning.

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And here we are in a new time slot. It is a new time slot, and I'm thrilled that you're here. Oh, I'm absolutely excited to be here at 4 30.

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But at the same point, at the same uh moment, I'm um a bit embarrassed. Because you've suggested that my my diet is not great. Yes.

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Well, I've listened to you and I I my ears were burning and I flicked on three AW at midnight the other night, and I heard you and Carol Lee having a chat. And we were talking homemade burgers. Do you know we've been eating homemade burgers since? Really? That was Caroline's recipe. Oh, Carol Lee got the recipe for the homemade burgers, and Melissa and I went, Oh, let's do homemade burgers. And in fact, we made a stack of them, put some away in the fridge, and we've been pulling them out, barbecuing them, putting all the goodies with them, and we've been eating those over the last week. And that brings me to our topic tonight, meal prepping. This morning? This morning. Uh the the It could be this morning. I've been asleep, so we'll call it this morning.

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You've got to get used to the time zone. I don't think you around something fierce, brother. Uh so you sent me this little thing by Jesse Stafarcus. Say that again. Stafarcus. Starfarkus. S-T-A-T-H-A-K-I-S. So he's Swiss. Greek, I believe. Greek. Do you think?

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Greek. Greek is look at him. Oh, come back. But he's about twelve years of age. No, he's actually not. Now, Jesse. Jesse is a PT. Now. A what? A P T personal trainer was a personal trainer for years. I've I've used an initial. I've started off really badly here. Can we start again?

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If you use acronyms on this program. I know. Uh you won't be coming in again.

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I thought it was a new time slot you're allowed to.

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Well, except that uh an acronym. What's a TLA? Uh I don't know, but I know what a TLDR is. What's a TLA? Too long. No, three-letter acronym. And nobody knows what you're talking about when you're talking acronyms. I bet you did that in the police force for 40 years. It was language.

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That's what we do. Yeah. You have to do it. Jargon and acronyms are how we lived.

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Oh no, and everybody does it.

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Well, because when we were writing, and any police that are listening to this will understand. When you're writing your what we call the running sheet, which is as you're going through well, we used to write the handwrite them, um, acronyms was how you used to just bash them out. For example. Well, um, I would tell you that um when you're writing out a traffic ticket for someone, you would write Tup Med. A what? Tup Med on it. One word, T-U-P-M-E-D. M-E D. Took up a position and maintained an even distance. What? Tupmed. So to who and who would actually see or read? Well, you'd write OBS, observe, and then DF, defendant, travelling at a FRS, which is a fast road of speed, and then you would Tup med them.

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And the person so the senior officer would know exactly what it is.

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As soon as he read that, he knew exactly what you were doing. That you'd followed someone, seen them speeding, took up a position behind them, followed them, and maintained an even distance so that you were getting an accurate re measure of or a a fairly accurate measure of their speed.

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So then if you had to give evidence in a magistrate's court, you couldn't use any of those acronyms. Wouldn't make sense to anybody listening.

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No, no, but the acronyms were your notes taken at the time, and they're your notes. So you can actually use those in court. But you wouldn't say IDIO, like intercepted defendant informed of observations. Yeah, well, that's what we did. If you were to read one of our penalty notices from back in the 80s, it was literally just acronym after acronym. And um when you went to even even the unsworn people that would write out what we called an alternative procedure summons, they would write those out. They would type it out in long form, knowing what the abbreviations were, because it was just how we communicated.

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I suspect probably that most industry uh have acronym that they use in their own, it becomes their own jargon inside that particular industry.

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Have you ever noticed when you're reading blogs these days, they've got TLDR at the top, right? A lot of blogs that are about 800 to a thousand words. You know, blogs when people are writing articles, they have a TLDR. Too long didn't read. So what they do is they actually just have a summary on the top. So that's so too long didn't read. Yeah. It's a summary because people's attention spans are about three seconds these days, and they will literally read the TLDR and not the blog.

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For about uh four fabulous years uh for my sins, I did some work with Save the Children Australia. Yes. Fantastic organization, uh, raise a lot of money, do amazing work in Australia and around the world, obviously. Point of that story is I would sit there for the first uh few months uh l uh uh during meetings, and I eventually said uh to the exec manager, uh I've got no idea what people are talking about. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? And he said, Oh, we're talking about the projects. I said, I've got no idea what it is about which you speak. And it wasn't just me, there were other people who felt the same way, just nobody had the guts to put their hand up around it. Uh and I said, and if you're bringing in people and asking them for support, financial support, which was quite often the the case, it was pointless because you couldn't communicate effectively and even make a request without using acronyms.

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Now I understand.

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They got lost on potential donors.

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I I totally understand that, but you've got to remember that within that industry, that is their language. It's like um it would be like a Chinese person just speaking Chinese and then having to think about speaking English. In those industries, if they're sitting around a boardroom table in their own environment, they're gonna use their language.

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How did you when you think about that career that you had for 40 years in the uh in the service in in Victoria, it would have taken you a while to pick up on it as well, presumably.

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Yes, oh absolutely, and in fact, you'll find that a lot of police will actually refer to what form they need, not by name, but by form number. Right? So that when they want to do a a general report that goes up to the uh to the boss, they just write a 47, which is the report number. And everyone knows what a 47 is. Um, or they might do an IFS, which is an incident fact sheet on the back of things. So that's how they communicate. And everybody in that industry, but if you were standing there listening, you wouldn't have a clue what they're talking about. But you've got to remember, it's like going into China and then asking the Chinese to change their language because you're present.

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I reckon there would be people right across Australia now, uh, whether you're listening uh here in Melbourne via 3AW, the Ace Radio Network, or 5AA in Adelaide, 6PR in Perth, that would have some fantastic conversations in their time, whether it was a teacher, whether you're working in a butcher's shop, whether you're working out uh on a building project, I reckon everybody would have some acronyms just exclusive to that particular industry.

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Tradies. Oh, I'm sure tradies would speak like bricklayers and and carpenters, chippies, carpenters, I'm sure they would all be speaking their own language that anyone listening wouldn't have a clue what they're talking about. Electricians as well.

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Sometimes on this program.

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Well, people that say things like PT.

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And I have no idea and I keep saying, I'm sorry, but I've got no idea what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But does that make me ignorant or it's just that it becomes they're using a language.

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You're flagging something that um, but I I think I I think my analogy of walking into China and hearing Chinese speaking and going, listen, I don't understand what you're talking about because I'm present. It'd be a bit frustrating. It would be very frustrating for them. Alison, good morning. Say hello to Roger.

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Hello, morning. Um, I used to be a registered nurse and I did night duty for uh probably three years straight, and I loved it. That's why I'm awake or night all the time. I think it's a it's a really good thing. Well for me it was.

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For how many years did you do, Ellison?

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Uh about three years straight. Of night shift. What was your night shift and how many nights a week did you do, Ellison?

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Um Thursday night, which went into Friday. Good Friday, and you have Good Friday penalties, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, and you finished Tuesday. You made a packet, and I did it every year.

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Now here we go. I I just want to raise this point. Shift workers know exactly how to cash in on public holiday roads. And and here you've got Alison right here now, fondly remembering the Easter weekend because it meant dollars to spend later on. I've got to have a look at my agreement.

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Yes. Yes. Well done, Allison. Yeah, well done. Thank you uh for that. Jan in Macleford. Good morning, Jan.

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That was quick.

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Uh well, we're just racing through some of these calls, Jan. Go.

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I love listening to Roger. Now, Roger, think of mere cats and how mere cats um have a watch person, like a notch mere cat that sits up all night.

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Yes.

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My daughter and I think we're the mere cats because we can't sleep at night. We're nighttime people. What do you think about that?

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Well, it's funny you should mention that because I was um going to say to Tony at the start of the show today. Moving into mornings now, because we have different chronotypes, which is uh means a person who is either a night owl or someone who loves to and thrives in the morning. Now, when I was working for my entire career, I was always a night owl. I'd be up late, I couldn't go to sleep, and that was it. And that's normal for people from about the age of nine, ten years of age, right the way through until we hit about 45, 50, you are a late chronotype. And then I've now retired and I've switched my body clock back to an early type. And when I said to Melissa, I'm starting this early show now coming in.

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Melissa, your darling.

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Melissa is my partner. Your partner. It was, she said, Oh my god, she said, you will thrive in that because I wake up early every morning. I'm awake at five and I'm ready to go straight away. I'm off to the gym, I'm off to the pool, um, out for a walk, doing all the things that I do. I love it. I love to get up and get going. But I was not like that when I was working. Hated alarms. So um, Jan, legitimate that you're late, but you are conditioning yourself to being late as well with light exposure and you can move that and you can change that back by getting early light in the day and continuing out as much daylight during the day and then minimizing that blue light exposure at night so that you would switch yourself back like I have to that um early what they call an a morning lark, an early bird.

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Well, I do all that. I go out in the sun. As soon as I wake up, which is not early, I go out in the sun, I do all of those things. Yes, good. But for some reason I have like I worked and I was always struggling to get to work on time because I had a day job.

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You're a late chronotype. Yes. Yeah, there's arguments for your daughter. Sorry, there's there's arguments for um school starting at ten o'clock in the morning too, now, because a lot of a lot of children are late chronotypes and they literally are waking up and they can't function first thing in the morning. And we're trying to educate children. What age are children though? Oh, we're talking from 10 years of age.

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Oh, so you're not talking about two-year-olds.

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But I'm talking natural, I'm talking a natural chronotype. This is what natural chronotypes are like. So when we we when we're early born, we are early chronotypes, and then as we age, we get later and later, but then we go back to being a morning chronotype, and it's a biological function, it's natural. What about people that say, Jan, thank you?

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What about people that say, uh, I'm just not a morning person? Well, that's because they've conditioned themselves. To not be a morning person. To not be a morning person. But more on that, the other side. We've got to do that. One one double three six nine three. Plenty of time for your calls. You might want to talk about acronyms. You want to be talking about you might want to talk about uh with Roger uh things to do with uh your sleep time, eating time, overnight working. 133693 Roger is here. Roger Sutherland, who is a regular contributor to this program for uh some time, but yeah, usually from midnight. Uh but we've shifted around for uh this year because you thought oh this is good, I don't have to get up uh at ten o'clock to come in. No. Uh because you can get up nice and early and start your day. Still start your day by 5 30. Uh well we off to the gym from here, straight away.

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Yeah, that's right. Straight into the gym.

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I've slept room. I may have to come with you. Okay. I'll take you for a walk. At some point.

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Yeah.

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Uh Beverly, good morning.

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Hello. Someone has a a special chronic for people with insomnia, which is me, because I don't like sleeping. I don't like being unconscious. So I simply keep putting it off.

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That's an interesting one. Uh that's a really interesting one because um that can be a f a nervous fear. Um, is is there a trauma there somewhere that's caused that that you don't like that? Because um I work with people on that. I work with them around breath work to calm their nervous system because that might be a trap trauma in your system that you don't like losing control by being a slope. Does that is that something that you would relate to?

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Well, when I was three, I got nephritis and I thought I might I might die. So I don't know if and so I think, you know, uh I'm I simply can't I thought I've always thought that when one died, if one lost consciousness forever, life would have no meaning. So I don't know if they're related.

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You know what? Don't get me wrong here, we underestimate childhood trauma and the impacts it has on us later in life in a very, very big way. Um a lot of clients that I worked with have had childhood trauma that have caused it it comes out later. It comes out later. We don't realise how much trauma is actually trapped in our system. And it wasn't until I went and learned how to be a breathwork facilitator and uh was educated in that that I understood how to release trauma. It changed my life, breathwork, as in learning how to breath-regulate. Learning how to self-regulate.

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I I remember when you came in here uh last year and you've got August. Yeah, uh that's right. After you'd done that uh program. And and I said, There's you there's something that you now know that I don't know, and then you explained how important that course was, and it changed your outlook and your sleep pattern and a lot of things.

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Totally changed my in fact it's quite interesting because I did the course in August. Uh flew to the Gold Coast, it was a three-day course where I was educated how to um how to facilitate breathwork practice and trauma-informed, because that's the way that where I want to go. And this is why I jumped on that call, because uh there's a lot of trauma trapped in people's bodies that we are unaware of. That when we go through a breathwork practice, it actually, I won't go into the whole technical side of it or the biological side, but it takes your prefrontal cortex offline, which is your rational thinking part of your brain. And when it takes that offline, it allows that subconscious to come out and be liberated and freed. When that happens, it actually calms your nervous system. And this is what happens to a lot of people with PTSD it is trauma trapped in their system. And what I do now is I help people to actually get that out and release it so that it's no longer trapped in the body. And even my children said to me, when I say children, I've got a 32-year-old and a 30-year-old, they said to me some months afterwards, there's something completely different about you. You are so much calmer now than you were leading into that. And I'm proud to say now that I'm medication free with PTSD, which is a hell of an achievement. Hell of an achievement. And I contribute that to my breath work.

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For those that don't know, uh we we've got to do another break. But you but you've spoken openly on this programme, maybe not at this time slot, about the towards the end of your career, your illustrious career as a serving police officer, and it became debilitating. And that's it's not unusual because there are many.

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Yeah, very, very common. But um it it does. Uh PTSD is absolutely real, particularly when it's from internal. That is the biggest problem. It wasn't mine wasn't well, whether it could be argued some of the things that I'd seen in the job, but I've seen a lot, obviously. But it was the personal attack that destroyed me, and it's what we call sanctuary trauma. But I've been able to let that go now, and I've been able to do that through facilitated uh breakthrough breath work, which has been incredible.

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Just from learning how to breathe properly. Learning how to breathe properly. And you would have thought it was fundamental in our humanity. Yes, clearly it's not. But we've lost our way in many, many ways. Uh, we will do some breathing exercise straight after this. G'day, good morning to you, wherever you are, right across Australia. I'm Tony McManus, Roger Sutherland here from a healthy if we might do a breathing exercise. For those that are uh jumping into the car for the first time, there'd be a lot of tradies jumping into the Ute, first time on a Monday morning. Uh, can they is it uh will it be distracting if we uh do a breathing exercise the other side of the news?

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Let's do that. Okay. Because the news is probably going to stimulate us, so let's calm us down after the news. This is a really good time for that. Very good point. In through the nose, out through the mouth, through first lift. Okay.

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First, first lift. I'm not blowing you against it. Oh, it is. Thank you. It is Australia Overnight. Rogers here for the other side. Good morning. It is Australia Overnight with Tony McMahon. Good morning. If you've just joined us for the first time, nice to have you company. The boys will be here. That is the 3AW Ricky program. Ross and Rust will be here uh just after the news at half past five. Uh Roger Sutherland is here. A healthy shift. He's going to join me every second Monday. Part of the program going forward. Oh, I love that expression. Going forward. Yep. It is what it is. Oh don't. That's another one. Can't stand it. And and I heard uh one of the commentators uh for the tennis said, and I was going for a walk and I nearly uh flung my earphones onto the road. I can see that. Uh they said uh you you can you you can you couldn't tell how it's going to go. Of course you can't tell how it's gonna go. It should be you couldn't tell how it's going. You can't tell how it's going. I know. Crazy. Uh for those that don't know, uh Roger long serving police officer, forty years. Forty years. Uh, and he is now specializing in uh working with people who work uh shift work, which could be uh you and me. He does an amazing uh job. Uh we started off by talking about acronyms. Did you see that list? Did I send you that list? Yes. Uh uh acronyms, uh, what's an SMB? Small forgotten it already. Medium business. Small medium business.

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What's an ROI? Return on investment. What's a KPI? Uh key physi uh performance indicator.

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Yes. What's a SCM? Uh you did tell me of the. Supply chain management.

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Supply chain management, that's the same.

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MRP. Manufacturing resource planning. And then we had a TNN, didn't we? Uh yes, we did.

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Time and Nature. Nature. Time and nature. Was it? No, we were working through um CRM. CRM, but we had EBA, Enterprise Bargaining Agreement. I know. Lots of. There was lots of them. It's like a different language. In every different industry has their own internal languages that they use really.

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Every single there would be builders listening right now. There would be construction people. Sparkies.

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Heading it, Sparkies would all have you would find that electricians would be on a building site with brickies and they wouldn't even understand what each other was saying. Because they're they'd be using terms that like you you've pulled back. Me up on using a term. But you would find that um if if you when the foreman comes in, puts the plans down, and you've got the electricians, the uh the carpenters, you've got the uh brickies, everyone standing there, each person will be using their own language and they'd be going, Wait, wait, what? Which wait what what? I'm sure that would happen.

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All the time.

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I'm sure that would be a good thing. The trainers would be able to bite in on that.

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Yes, I'm sure they would. 133693 if you'd like to uh join us. 103693. Now, uh one of the things that you spoke about on this program last year was the idea of breathing. Now, we thought we'd do a bit of an experiment. Those that are driving into work right now, anywhere around Australia, yes, uh, you've jumped into uh your car of choice.

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Yeah. Now life goes on, and life a lot of people will have jumped out of bed this morning and their nervous system will be wired from the second they wake up in trouble.

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Because why is their nervous? They've just had they've just woken up from hopefully uh seven, eight, nine hours' sleep.

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I'll tell you why. Hopefully. Because this is something that people need to understand. Your breath actually informs your nervous system, not the other way around. So if you jump out of bed and you are gonna make your coffee, gotta have your shower, got to get dressed, oh my god, what am I gonna wear? What am I taking for lunch? Oh, is the car gonna start? What if I'm late? Oh, I've got this meeting at this time. What's that doing to your nervous system? You are you can't control the stimuli to your nervous system, but what you can control is you can reverse that by the way you are actually breathing. So check in with yourself and ask yourself, how am I breathing? Now we've just come out of the five o'clock news, and news can be highly stimulating to a lot of people, and we can find ourselves driving along, and as we're driving, we're quite tense. We're white knuckling the steering wheel, people are irritating us along the road, and we're having massive problems with that. So, what we do is we do this. We put one hand on our naval. One hand on the belly, one hand on the belly button, and we breathe through our nose. We close our lips and we breathe through our nose for a count of four. So we just go breathing in. All the way down into our bottom hand, right? The one that's on our naval. We don't hold it, we just let it go straight back out, but through pursed lips like you're blowing out through a straw. Hello there. For a count of eight. Hello there, I'm just breathing out. Yeah. As soon as you get to the bottom of that, you can hold for a second or two, and then you can breathe in through your nose again for a count of four, and then through pursed lips, breathe back out again for eight. You will literally feel yourself calming. Now, one of the things that we need to do, this is called self-regulating, and we are downregulating by doing this. Downregulating. We're calming our central nervous system, right? Calming it. So we can't control the stimuli, but we can control our reaction to it. When we learn breath work, we actually open the time between seeing the stimuli and choosing a reaction to it. Even though that's impossible with time-wise, it actually helps us to control our reaction to it. And I'll tell you where you notice this. When you're driving a car, if you know how to do this, you'll find when someone cuts you off, you'll go, good on you, bro. Yeah, it's instead of instead of absolutely losing your mind in your car. And how many people are driving right now that have literally just abused another driver?

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Well, as you well know, road rage is a major issue for many.

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And that is a highly stimulated nervous system, and we are in a sympathetic state. That person has jumped out of bed, decided what they need for breakfast, not lunch, made a coffee, uh, had a shower, decided what they need to wear, jumped in the car. Oh my god, I forgot my laptop, back into the house, grab the laptop, grab, jump back in the car, off they go, driving off. Someone hits a stops at a light that they could have kept going on. Oh my god, you lose your brain. So we're continually stimulating that.

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Which most of the population you've just described. That's exactly what I'm talking about. One double three six nine three. Rod Northbourne, you've got a question for Roger. Go ahead, Roger. Uh Rod, I beg your pardon.

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Good morning, guys. Love the love the show. I've heard the the Brecky boys talk about it. Sunday night seems to be a an issue sleeping for myself and and and a lot of other people. I'm just wondering why. Uh all of the days are good except for Sunday night.

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I'll tell you why. I'll tell you exactly why. Are you a nine-to-five worker? Uh just on my way to work now. So six to three. No worries. So when I say nine to five, I mean you're a regular day worker. When you got home from work Friday night, did you have a late night Friday night? Did you go to bed at your normal time Friday night? Did you go to bed at your normal time Saturday night? No, I watched some tennis. Yep. See now this is the thing. What people don't realise is what they do is they get up at the same time every day during the week, and then on Friday night, they have a late night and have a sleep in on Saturday because they feel like they earn themselves a sleep in to catch up on sleep. We can't catch up on sleep. You can't catch up, you can't store it, can you? Yes, you can bank sleep. You can bank sleep, but you can't catch up on it. Another conversation. Now, just to explain to you, you had a late night on Friday night, you had a late night on Saturday night because you didn't go to bed at your normal time, you didn't get up at your normal time. What do you think happens on Monday? You have phase shifted your circadian rhythm. So therefore, when you go to get up on Monday, it is a massive struggle. So the smallest thing is. What should Roger do then? Go to bed at ever at the same time, or at least get up at the same time every day, but try bonus points for going to bed at the same time. But this is the reason why people are struggling. Does that ring a bell, Roger?

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Yeah, I might give that a go, guys. I'd love something to work, it'd be fantastic.

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Yeah, well, that's what it actually is. On Friday and Saturday night, if you don't go to bed at the same time, what you're doing is you are actually phase shifting your circadian rhythm to a later time and you're making it harder for you to wake up. If you think about it, think about when you travel and go overseas, you literally, through light and movement, are stimulating your circadian rhythm and changing the time zone. That's what we do Friday, Saturday night. If you've got teenage children, watch your teenage children on Monday morning. If you're letting them stay up late Friday night, sleep in Saturday, stay up late Saturday night, sleep in Sunday, you have set yourself up for a massive problem on Monday morning.

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Routine will set you free? Routine will set you free. Uh what about the idea of uh i i the old slogan the old uh saying used to be uh early to bed, early to rise. So it's all intrinsically linked.

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It early light is the key to health. No matter what people say, early daylight is the key to health. Getting up early and getting that early light, as the light's coming up, you are actually stimulating your body. Your eyes are seeing the light getting lighter. You are telling your body that it's getting light, it's daytime, suppress the sleep hormones, and let's get fired up. Let's get that cortisol up and get us going.

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All right, uh, Textending775 wants to know uh w about the uh breathing and the workshop. We'll get details on that from you in just a moment. Uh for Australia Overnight, come and join us 133693. What time do you jump into the cot? And as Rod has pointed out, is Monday morning, because people always talk about oh, it's a Monday morning, I can't get organized again. Monday artis. Monday artis, what's that about? Uh is it a thing? We'll find out straight after this. It's really good having you here. Monday morning, uh Roger Sutherland, who for a long time, uh 40 years as a police officer uh in the Victorian Police Service. Uh I'm just looking at some of these texts. Look how many people want to do. Uh where did Roger go for the uh breathing and the other. Yeah, where do I go to learn to breathe? Um it was uh And what prompted you to do it more importantly? How did you know it was a thing?

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Yeah, I started it it started popping up as in nervous system control, and then I started researching where I could learn to do it properly, and I ended up doing it with Infinity Breathwork and Training, which are a company in Queensland. Infinity. Infinity Breathwork and Training. There is a very good studio in Brunswick, which is called No Name Studio. Um I went and did a breakthrough breathwork with them last weekend, weekend before last. It was phenomenal. Highly recommend No Name Studio in Brunswick. Uh for an hour, two hours or older. That was an hour, it was uh three hours in the afternoon. Mark uh that runs it there. Um why don't we get Mark? Can we get Mark on the program one morning? Let's do that. Yeah, that he would love it. Um Mark Mark is actually running a free breathwork session on Saturday, this Saturday at 10 a.m. So if you jump on the No Name Studios website and in there you go into book a session and you'll see there's a free breathwork session on Saturday morning at 10am. Um that you can do at home with in just in the comfort of your own home. Use the headphones, listen through, lay there. It's just a relaxation breathwork. Give it a go. I highly recommend that everyone learns how to do breath work with the state.

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Not being an expert, I wonder whether a lot of these things are uh also intrinsically linked one way or the other with things like anxiety or just and even perhaps some mental health issues at the time.

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Totally, totally because PTSD is is a it's an injury, right? And it it's trauma that's trapped in the body, and we can release that with a breathwork practice. Um and continuing to do that, you do feel I've got to tell you, it changed my life, Tone. It made such a difference to me. Once you learn, what we have forgotten, if you think about it, a baby on the breast actually breathes through its nose. It has to. So they are thriving. But then once we are no longer on the breast and we're no longer we start breathing through our mouth, and this causes our autonomic nervous system huge problems.

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We all love a great mouth breather. Especially in the cinema. So true. In the cinema. When you're sitting next to a mouth breather. Oh no, you've got to love it. Tony and Roger, uh, we used to we in the sales team it was always uh K-I-D-S. Yeah, keep it simple, stupid. Totally method, we use that. A lot of people uh biotech, not a lot, quite a couple have uh said uh they are not acronys. What's the what's the distinction between an acronym and initialism? Yes. Acronyms, according to 903, Mark who says, uh have to create a new word, ANZAC bomb. Uh see, I just I would have thought that they're often referred to as acronyms.

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Yeah, I'm not sure. Um he may be right, but I'm not sure. I I know we've always referred to them as acronyms. Uh Tommy, good morning to you. Say hello to Roger.

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Roger, Tommy, Tommy, you're going to be able to do it. How are you this morning? Every morning walks the dog at this time.

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Fantastic, but I'll tell you what, Roger, if you actually want to get a routine, it's called get yourself a greyhound. Yeah. They're the ones.

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They'll keep you going.

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Just love being out. They love being out. Now, speaking of acronyms of T Mac, you do know Tony Leonard and the uh could have been that's got a fairly great song about him. Yeah. RHJ, do you know what that stands for?

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Uh RHJ, right hand.

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R H G. R H H G.

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No.

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It's a red hot guy. A red hot code. Of course you're gonna have a red hot game. Yeah, that's it. The whole song's about him if you actually listen to it. Play it overnight. And Roger, if you don't sell my Ben Fordham, I'll bear my bum in Berk Street like that. Really? Ben Fordham? 100%. 2GB.

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I'm gonna take that. I'm gonna take that as a absolute um compliment. That's a huge compliment.

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Wonderful. You could end up doing Breakfast Up there, the new owner. On the 2GB. One double three if he goes. One double three. Thank you for that. 103693. Forecast for uh Melbourne today. Let me tell you what's uh going to happen briefly. Uh so if you've just woken up, uh top of 21 degrees currently 14. Those in Adelaide, 29 degrees, it's just over 13 degrees right now. And in Perth, good morning to you, 38 degrees, 28.5 as we speak.