A Healthy Shift | The Shift Work Podcast
It doesn't have to be this way.
Welcome to A Healthy Shift | The Shift Work Podcast, the podcast helping shift workers thrive while changing how organisations think about people working in 24/7 environments.
Hosted by Roger Sutherland, Australia's Night Shift & Sleep Specialist, this is where evidence meets lived experience.
After more than 40 years of working rotating shifts with Victoria Police, followed by years studying nutrition, circadian biology, chrononutrition, sleep, human performance and women's health, Roger is on a mission to challenge the belief that fatigue, poor sleep, burnout and declining health are simply part of working shifts.
Because they don't have to be.
Whether you're a nurse, paramedic, police officer, firefighter, doctor, aged care worker, manufacturing employee, FIFO worker, miner, pilot, flight attendant, truck driver, dispatcher, or anyone working outside the traditional 9-to-5, this podcast will give you practical, evidence-based strategies to help you sleep better, improve your energy, optimise your health and perform at your best.
If you're a leader, manager, People & Culture professional, WHS specialist, or responsible for leading a 24/7 workforce, you'll discover a different way of thinking about shift work—one that focuses on building shift work capability from within through education, leadership and practical systems that create healthier people, stronger teams and higher-performing organisations.
Each episode explores topics including:
• Shift work
• Night shift
• Sleep after night shift
• Circadian rhythm
• Fatigue management
• Shift worker health
• Nutrition for shift workers
• Chrononutrition
• Recovery and resilience
• Women's health and shift work
• Leadership in 24/7 organisations
• Human performance
• Workplace wellbeing
• Fatigue risk management
• Building healthier, safer and higher-performing workplaces
This isn't another podcast offering generic health tips.
It's a podcast about changing the future of shift work.
Because healthier people create stronger teams.
Stronger teams build better organisations.
And it all starts by understanding how to work with biology, not against it.
It doesn't have to be this way.
A Healthy Shift | The Shift Work Podcast
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In the face of demanding shift work, can we safeguard our mental health and help others do the same? Let's explore that critical question together on this episode of A Healthy Shift podcast. As your host, Roger Sutherland—a certified nutritionist, veteran law enforcement officer, and shift worker for almost four decades—I'm ready to guide you through the tough reality of mental health struggles in the workplace. We will take a deep look at the signs of a colleague in distress and how to make a difference through active listening.
The conversation doesn't end there. We look into the role your diet and lifestyle play in your mental wellbeing, and the resources available to help you improve it. I'll share some useful tips on how to create a safe, non-judgmental space for discussing mental health. And remember, this isn't about one-time solutions; it's a journey we are on together. By the end of this episode, you'll have the tools needed to better support your colleagues and yourself. Let's make shift work a healthier place for everyone, one conversation at a time.
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Roger Sutherland is Australia's Night Shift & Sleep Specialist and the founder of A Healthy Shift.
After more than 40 years working rotating shifts with Victoria Police, Roger now helps organisations reduce fatigue risk, improve staff wellbeing and build healthier, safer and higher-performing 24/7 workplaces through evidence-based education, circadian biology and the Shift Work Champions™ Framework.
Shift Work Champions™: https://join.ahealthyshift.com/shift-work-capability
Website: https://ahealthyshift.com.au
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roger-sutherland
Instagram: @a_healthy_shift
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Disclaimer: Roger Sutherland is not a doctor or a medical professional. Always consult a physician before implementing any strategies mentioned in this podcast. Use of this information is strictly at your own risk. Roger Sutherland will not assume any liability for direct or indirect losses or damages that may result from the use of the information contained in this podcast, including but not limited to economic loss, injury, illness, or death.
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Speaker 1Yeah , mate , I'm fine . It's an automatic reaction every time someone asks but is it enough ? In today's episode , I'll discuss why that one question just isn't enough . Shift work can be brutal , but it doesn't have to be . Welcome to a healthy shift . My name is Roger Sutherland , certified nutritionist , veteran law enforcement officer and 24-7 shift worker for almost four decades . Through this podcast , I aim to educate shift workers , using evidence-based methods , to not only survive the rig as a shift worker , but thrive . My goal is to empower shift workers to improve their health and wellbeing so they have more energy to do the things they love . Enjoy today's show and welcome to today's episode of a healthy shift podcast , and thank you for listening .
Speaker 1Today I want to talk about supporting mental health in the workplace strategies for our shift workers . I'm your host , roger Sutherland , and today I have a critical topic that I would really like to discuss and that is supporting the mental health of our colleagues in the workplace . This is generally how it goes and I know you'll relate . Are you okay ? Yeah , mate , I'm fine . Ticks box , walks away , but that is just not enough . It's actually shown quite categorically that it's not enough . One question it's an automatic reaction for all of us to turn around and say , yeah , mate , I'm fine . But it's the next question , which is the key , and that's the one that can actually bring about conversations that may very well open a person up and bring things up and deal with them . Really important , are you okay , dave ? We've just recently had a , are you okay , dave ? And this is great and I am a massive advocate for this , for bringing awareness to it , for mental health . But it's one day and it's great , but we need to be doing this more and more , and especially now .
Speaker 1So let's just start with what's the importance of mental health in our workplace . We all know mental health . We've got to have good mental health , but do we know ? Before I go into the strategies , let's just take a moment to understand why this topic is so crucial . Because , as shift workers , we navigate through irregular hours and very , very demanding schedules , particularly at the moment , which is taking a massive toll on our mental well-being just in itself . Let's just have a look at a few of the topics that really really causes problems Isolation Isolation is a problem for a shift worker because , while the family's off , doing family stuff , you're trying to sleep or you're at work , and that takes its toll , and it does . It takes its toll in a big way . Make no bones about it , because while there's isolated incidents , when this continually occurs , it actually causes you more and more and more problems Burnout Burnout is very common at the moment in a lot of frontline health and emergency services .
Speaker 1Members are really , really busy , really busy , really snowed under , really really inundated with paperwork , and they are totally burnt out . They're filling the holes for people who are not there and they're actually just Burning out . Overwhelmed People are totally overwhelmed with the amount of work that's coming their way and no idea how to go about getting on top of it . The pressure that they're under , not only from management , but the pressure that they're under from the public , the government and anybody else that's got an opinion on what they're doing and how they're going about it , and that also takes its toll . And this is without even mentioning the critical incidents that some of these people are attending . Paramedics are attending , fibregate members are attending , pluse are attending , and let's not forget about even our doctors and nurses working in these hospitals , caring for patients and losing them .
Speaker 1This can be very traumatic and it makes it very , very difficult for them . It's the simple things that can literally sometimes tip people over . It may not be a major incident to you , but , honestly , it can literally be the simple thing , because we don't know what has actually occurred to a person in their life . So be very , very careful and watch very closely . It is essential to create a supportive environment where everyone feels comfortable discussing their mental health . So let's just look at how we recognize signs of a struggle .
Speaker 1So how do we know when a colleague might be struggling ? Well , keep an eye out . You've got to watch them , talk to them . You know them . Look for changes in their behavior , mood swings , do they look like they're going off ? Are they miserable ? Are they sad ? Have they got a really short wick when they seem to be going , is there signs of withdrawal ? A lot of these things can really be early warning signs and these can be indicators that something might actually be a miss . Ask them hey , I've noticed that you're pretty flat at the moment . Is everything okay ? Oh , yeah , mate , I'm fine , yeah , but you're being flat . Is you know , like seriously , is everything okay ?
Speaker 1Ask people for these things a few times , because that can actually be the incident or the question that actually opens them up and you , honestly , you don't know how many times have we heard of a person suiciding or something like that , and we wish God I wish I'd known Watch , listen , learn , pay attention and ask the question and then ask them again and then keep an eye on the behavior and just point out a behavior that they may not be aware of that may very well just open them up . All right , the greatest power that we have , the greatest power in our toolkit , is the power of active listening , and I think it's really really important that if we are asking a colleague or a friend what's going on , that we sit there and we actively listen , because when they actually open up about their mental health , it's crucial that we give them our full attention , total attention , and it's imperative that you actually resist the urge to jump in with advice . Sometimes they're not looking for advice . If they want advice , they will ask you , but instead offer empathy and understanding . Just be there for them and just listen . Just be an active listener , and they will appreciate it and they will come to you with any questions or ask you for your opinion .
Speaker 1Creating a safe space , creating a safe space for these conversations , is actually paramount , really , really important . People need to know that they can actually discuss their mental health without there being some sort of an impact . Encourage an open and non-judgemental environment where your friend or colleague can feel comfortable in sharing their feelings . And remember we're all in this together . We're all suffering at times , at different times , with different things , and we all need to be in a position where we can literally just Open up and talk about those things . And don't forget , we can offer resources as well as evidence-based Nutritionists I am . I completely have a handle and understand the profound impact that your diet and your lifestyle can literally be having on your mental health . So , in your workplace , share resources and information on how nutrition and well-being practices can really support your mental health . This may very well be a game changer for your colleague .
Speaker 1Fine ways to go about it , fine ways to help them , because you know we are a lot of what we eat . If we're eating highly processed or we're doing Drugs or we're doing alcohol or whatever we , it seriously starts to impact on all sorts of issues around your mental health . There is a very , very strong gut brain access and it's been more and more research . Now if your mental health is suffering , your gut health will suffer . If your gut health is suffering , your mental health will suffer as well . If you're always putting highly palatable carbohydrates and fats , highly processed foods , high sugar foods into your system , then you can expect that your mental health is going to take a hit from that as well . So make sure you're getting all the rainbow in the colors of the rainbow , fruits and vegetables .
Speaker 1And Don't forget when someone opens up and talks to you , that is not the end of the conversation . Follow up with them and check in after these conversations . Don't let it end there . It's really important . Follow up with them . It could be a simple message to let them know that you're thinking about them . These gestures can actually mean the world to someone who's going through a really tough time . You may actually have saved them without even realizing . And remember you're not expected to be an expert . So what can we actually do ? Because you're just a friend , be a listener , but they can seek professional help and you can encourage people to go seeking professional help when they need it .
Speaker 1Sometimes the support of a mental health professional is essential . We are not trained mental health professionals and there's plenty of them out there that Know how to go about dealing with these situations , so know when to go . Provide information on available resources and ensure that everyone knows whereabouts they can actually turn to go to get help , because there's a lot of resources , there's a lot of things there that are available in all kinds of organizations . Whether you want to scoff at it or whether you want to laugh at it , there are , they are trying their best to help , and you can always go and see your doctor and sit down and have a chat with your GP . In fact , it's an excellent place to start to actually sow the seeds and actually start Conversations around your mental health as well , and you might be pleasantly surprised at the reaction from your doctor , and he can refer you or put you on to a mental health plan or a health plan that can actually Assist you and direct you in the right direction that you might need to go .
Speaker 1Alright , that's a wrap for today's episode . These evidence-based strategies can actually make a significant difference in how we support the mental health of our colleagues in and around the Workplace . Remember we're not here to just survive . We're here to thrive . Stay committed to nourishing your body and prioritizing your well-being and , as always , please remember to be patient and kind to yourself as you navigate the challenges of shift work and prioritize your mental health and well-being . Thank you for listening . If you enjoyed this episode , be sure to subscribe so you get notified whenever a new episode is released . It would also be ever so helpful if you could leave a rating and review on the app you're currently listening on . If you want to know more About me or work with me , you can go to a healthy shift comm . I'll catch you on the next one . You .